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19-10-2006, 06:24 AM
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Traveling
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one would have thought frozen was a better option.
So the record in fact should be "4ltr outboard with restricted water pick ups" rather than "4ltr all comers" as one would expect.
Thanks for clearing it up Johnny
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19-10-2006, 08:49 AM
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Senior Member
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Originally posted by Jon Fuller
The main reason for the new slower records in 3D is that in about '90, or '91, remote water pickups were banned from class III, and everyone had to lower the motors quite considerably to pick up water, even with the then new-ish CLE's.
Geoff helt it at 100.24mph with remote pickups, then went back and ran 94mph for the new record.
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if geoff ran 94 for new record,then you must have to go slower to gain a record .
the weights and length plus 207 canopy rules against old 70s and 80s boats
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19-10-2006, 09:52 AM
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Traveling
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Boat name: T/T D2S
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Hutch not knocking it mate. Just an observation that it's slower than it was and there is no record of the previous record passed out of sight from man and the books
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19-10-2006, 12:09 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally posted by BluFin
Hutch not knocking it mate. Just an observation that it's slower than it was and there is no record of the previous record passed out of sight from man and the books
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The list of historical records includes every British speed record set since the 1930's, including Class 3 / 4 Litre which was originally established by Fred Shaw in 1970.
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19-10-2006, 02:49 PM
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Traveling
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Location: Alderholt
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Boat name: T/T D2S
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IIIB 1.3 one for the list
Cuz Billy & the old boy broke there own record with the Blu Fin (renamed Armacryl then) in 79-80 maybe even 81 Just got it for Yamaha by the smallest margin
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19-10-2006, 05:40 PM
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Traveling
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Location: Alderholt
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tought about on the drive home would have been 81
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19-10-2006, 06:56 PM
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Senior Member
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Boat make: 25 phantom 26 puma cat,30 pima cat,25 phantom 30 flipper,
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Quote:
Originally posted by BluFin
Hutch not knocking it mate. Just an observation that it's slower than it was and there is no record of the previous record passed out of sight from man and the books
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did,nt think you woz,just wondering how ive got record if john sayes geoff did 94
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19-10-2006, 07:08 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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I thought he did, in about '97, mebbe it was 92mph, or 93mph. oh well, who cares, it was years ago.
You sure the minimum weights didn't change or something, that would render any old record null & void and open the door to a new one.
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01-11-2006, 09:07 PM
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Pete Little is close to a new class III 2ltr national record
see here
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02-11-2006, 07:48 AM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
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Boat make: Spectre 30
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"Chris Bryan 82.88"
He's been telling me all season that he was going to crack the 100 mph!
Must be saving a bit for later in the week.
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02-11-2006, 08:32 AM
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numbskull
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When the flag drops..................
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05-11-2006, 11:23 PM
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06-11-2006, 10:59 PM
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Well now the web site is fully updated it seems the new outboard immersed propeller record is now at 86.92mph
Its a shame Ross didnt go cus they could have beaten that by 11mph no problems!
just such a shame his prop didnt arrive in time cus he wouldnt have wanted to rev his engine too much at 98 and 94 at 500 rpm before the limiter wouldnt have smashed the record by enough so there was no point going.
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06-11-2006, 11:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Burty
Well now the web site is fully updated it seems the new outboard immersed propeller record is now at 86.92mph
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Outboard Immersed Propellor Unlimited - Alan Marshal 145.9mph
Was Paul Brooks in a monohull? ( Outboard Immersed Propellor Monohull )
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07-11-2006, 12:13 PM
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Large member
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Interests: Official smartass
Boat name: Seahorse.org
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Quote:
Originally posted by Maxim Gibson
And I thought Marc had the v24 record?
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I do. When we arrived at Conniston the National record had not yet been ratified. It has now been ratified.
I beat Ricky Hills record at Conniston anyway - even though it was just one run - and I did it with a 100kg mechanic trying to figure out an engine problem, and not with the light as a very light thing naviguessor I usually run the boat with.
The process to authenticate and declare the record valid is a long one, and the record can only be published once it is official. The pier to pier record is at the UIM for ratification. I believe it has now been ratified, and I will scan the certificate when it arrives.
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Originally posted by Jon Fuller
The main reason for the new slower records in 3D is that in about '90, or '91, remote water pickups were banned from class III in an effort to reduce speeds for safety reasons, and everyone had to lower the motors quite considerably to pick up water, even with the then new-ish CLE's.
Geoff Purves held it at 100.24mph with remote pickups, then went back and ran 94mph for the new record.
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I will get the certificates from Geoff and scan them and post them, and we can determine exactly what dates and times who did what. I remember telling me he hit over 100 with the remote water pickup, and he lost about 8mph when they removed them a year later.
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08-11-2006, 02:39 PM
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Registered User
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Whos Thomas rosen then?
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08-11-2006, 06:02 PM
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Traveling
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Quote:
Originally posted by scottyboy
Whos Thomas rosen then?
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A Swedish Male lap dancer with an intrest in powerboats
here is the link
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08-11-2006, 07:48 PM
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Registered User
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Ooh! He's fast then by looking at his results!
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09-11-2006, 06:56 AM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally posted by scottyboy
Whos Thomas rosen then?
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Current World class 3C champion.
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09-11-2006, 08:54 AM
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Registered User
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not to be confused with OLD BEARDY
current 2 litre 3 c PHALL EATING WITH 9 PINTS WORLD CHAMPION (night before a race.)
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