Honda?

[Scream-it.com]

OK you secretive Class 3s...how heavy within 100kilos are your boats?

Also what is the engine limit for the class?

[Pearny]

pm sent

[OCRDA]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

OK you secretive Class 3s...how heavy within 100kilos are your boats?

Also what is the engine limit for the class?

All in PB1 Rich !! Does anyone know how far the OCR boats were in front on the start run ??

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

All in PB1 Rich !! Does anyone know how far the OCR boats were in front on the start run ??

Only on day 1 and I was just beside him! Giving him space and abiding by the rules

You around tomorrow? I was gonna pop over for a vist and camper brief with Penn

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

All in PB1 Rich !! Does anyone know how far the OCR boats were in front on the start run ??

Sorry mate...haven't read every page about other classes and now buried in 175 pages of WPPA!! There's only so much a Janner can take in.

[OCRDA]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

Only on day 1 and I was just beside him! Giving him space and abiding by the rules

You around tomorrow? I was gonna pop over for a vist and camper brief with Penn

Yes should be about most of the day !!

Bob

[Cookee]

Call into BananaShark while you're there!

[RHINO]

forget who was in front of who, the main thing is what a spectular sight the start is for the public,and in future if we have v24 and more of the honda crews all mixed in then we have something to televise and sell to the media.

[the edge]

Well said , there are not enough boats racing in this country at the moment to put on their own smal events get everyone together to put on races worth doing and watching .

[D~OOD]

You could enter the RMYC's Invitation Basic which will run alongside the Class III Camden Trophy - 15/16th August. Hondas are very welcome.
(See Needles thread)

[OCRDA]

Originally Posted by RHINO

forget who was in front of who, the main thing is what a spectular sight the start is for the public,and in future if we have v24 and more of the honda crews all mixed in then we have something to televise and sell to the media.

Yes quite right Brian !! But we still beat you on the start run again !!

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by Cookee

Call into BananaShark while you're there!

Hi John, apols i didn't realise you were in the same place! I have to catch up anyway as have instructions to give you some dosh for our non feathered friend! Will try to get there before driving to Gib via Portugal!

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

Hi John, apols i didn't realise you were in the same place! I have to catch up anyway as have instructions to give you some dosh for our non feathered friend! Will try to get there before driving to Gib via Portugal!

See you soon then!

[Scream-it.com]

It is clear that 3Cs will beat a Honda quite easily in a flat race but for those who are interested in the rough things turn around dramatically - probably due to length. It was a pretty close thing in the rough. The 3Cs are around 250-350 kilos lighter and run similar fuel levels.

Hopefully this may encourage the Honda series planners to integrate more with the rest perhaps and hopefully run Honda alongside these guys, OCR and others to make a more major event...better for drivers and better for spectators and better for sponsors and better for powerboating across the board in the UK.

5 Scream It BASIC 00:05:25:338 00:10:11:206 00:14:58:161 00:19:43:324 00:24:35:500 00:29:16:512 00:33:53:356 00:38:30:366 00:43:04:463 00:47:40:789 00:52:13:687

13 Circle Express Class3c 00:05:38:192 00:10:21:431 00:16:06:869 00:19:36:027 00:24:25:326 00:29:03:979 00:33:41:238 00:38:17:186 00:42:56:123 00:47:21:691 00:51:48:435

01 N Class Fabrication Class3c 00:05:17:360 00:09:59:892 00:15:12:176 00:19:36:903 00:24:29:991 00:29:20:598 00:34:04:177 00:38:36:551 00:43:06:816 00:47:38:451 00:51:59:803

20 A P Marine Class3c 00:06:11:701 00:11:43:414 00:17:09:860 00:23:02:712 00:28:58:860 00:34:31:811 00:39:45:962 00:44:56:075 00:50:04:814 00:54:58:980

[Pearny]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

It is clear that 3Cs will beat a Honda quite easily in a flat race but for those who are interested in the rough things turn around dramatically - probably due to length. It was a pretty close thing in the rough. The 3Cs are around 250-350 kilos lighter and run similar fuel levels.

Hopefully this may encourage the Honda series planners to integrate more with the rest perhaps and hopefully run Honda alongside these guys, OCR and others to make a more major event...better for drivers and better for spectators and better for sponsors and better for powerboating across the board in the UK.

5 Scream It BASIC 00:05:25:338 00:10:11:206 00:14:58:161 00:19:43:324 00:24:35:500 00:29:16:512 00:33:53:356 00:38:30:366 00:43:04:463 00:47:40:789 00:52:13:687

13 Circle Express Class3c 00:05:38:192 00:10:21:431 00:16:06:869 00:19:36:027 00:24:25:326 00:29:03:979 00:33:41:238 00:38:17:186 00:42:56:123 00:47:21:691 00:51:48:435

01 N Class Fabrication Class3c 00:05:17:360 00:09:59:892 00:15:12:176 00:19:36:903 00:24:29:991 00:29:20:598 00:34:04:177 00:38:36:551 00:43:06:816 00:47:38:451 00:51:59:803

20 A P Marine Class3c 00:06:11:701 00:11:43:414 00:17:09:860 00:23:02:712 00:28:58:860 00:34:31:811 00:39:45:962 00:44:56:075 00:50:04:814 00:54:58:980

Here is saturdays race times


15 Scream It BASIC 00:05:16:936 00:02:23:250 00:02:08:459 00:04:38:227 00:04:33:485 00:04:32:024 00:04:30:297
1 N Class Fabrication Class3c 00:05:33:810 00:04:19:214 00:04:24:573 00:04:19:526 00:04:14:969
9 Wight Stuff Class3c 00:05:18:479 00:04:25:190 00:04:21:041 00:04:16:673 00:04:13:908 00:04:16:458
13 Circle Express Class3c 00:05:21:519 00:04:29:229 00:04:31:439 00:04:20:620 00:04:15:554 00:04:16:534
20 A P Marine Class3c 00:05:09:975 00:04:17:440 00:04:30:199 00:04:08:297 00:04:18:967 00:04:10:050

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by Pearny

Here is saturdays race times


15 Scream It BASIC 00:05:16:936 00:02:23:250 00:02:08:459 00:04:38:227 00:04:33:485 00:04:32:024 00:04:30:297
1 N Class Fabrication Class3c 00:05:33:810 00:04:19:214 00:04:24:573 00:04:19:526 00:04:14:969
9 Wight Stuff Class3c 00:05:18:479 00:04:25:190 00:04:21:041 00:04:16:673 00:04:13:908 00:04:16:458
13 Circle Express Class3c 00:05:21:519 00:04:29:229 00:04:31:439 00:04:20:620 00:04:15:554 00:04:16:534
20 A P Marine Class3c 00:05:09:975 00:04:17:440 00:04:30:199 00:04:08:297 00:04:18:967 00:04:10:050

Sorry mate I wasn't out to offend you as I know Saturday was a different story in the flatter conditions (as admitted above). I am simply trying to demonstrate to the Honda crowd that it is worth racing alongside others and is actually great fun and not as processionary as people would lead others to believe! More boats the merrier but accept this did put you in a bad light.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

It is clear that 3Cs will beat a Honda quite easily in a flat race but for those who are interested in the rough things turn around dramatically - probably due to length.

I think it's more likely to be the total lack of forefoot and subsequent recovery, especially in a following sea, that the B23 has (or rather hasn't). The Honda's have a far more traditional (bluff) fwd section, like that of a Phantom or similar.

Ian Sterling used to give the B23's a right good spanking in the rough in 3C with his Phantom 21, so length (for once) wasn't the issue.

[Pearny]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

Sorry mate I wasn't out to offend you as I know Saturday was a different story in the flatter conditions (as admitted above). I am simply trying to demonstrate to the Honda crowd that it is worth racing alongside others and is actually great fun and not as processionary as people would lead others to believe! More boats the merrier but accept this did put you in a bad light.

Lol bud no offence was taken just thoght i would put up saturdays times too! To be honest you wernt that far off the pace anyways! are you comming to the torquay basic race on august 2nd? Would be good to see you there and hopefully more of the honda guys

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

I think it's more likely to be the total lack of forefoot and subsequent recovery, especially in a following sea, that the B23 has (or rather hasn't). The Honda's have a far more traditional (bluff) fwd section, like that of a Phantom or similar.

Ian Sterling used to give the B23's a right good spanking in the rough in 3C with his Phantom 21, so length (for once) wasn't the issue.

I remember Pete Little after the Europeans at Cowes in 2001? It was quite nasty and after visiting Poole we had to turn and go round the south of the Island and we passed him when he was off the plane as the boat was filling up every time he stuffed it which was at least every other wave. They also take the tops off waves going upwind and Roy Smiths windscreen had a lot to do with his success I believe as he could plough through stuff better than his competitors.

Probably too much detail for this discussion, but I agree with Jon, they don't like it downwind or when it gets really rough!

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by Pearny

Lol bud no offence was taken just thoght i would put up saturdays times too! To be honest you wernt that far off the pace anyways! are you comming to the torquay basic race on august 2nd? Would be good to see you there and hopefully more of the honda guys

Hi Mate will check it out. At moment I am dissappearing to Gib over the next couple fo weeks to visit Gringo. Probably a last mnute thing if we do...