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Old 21-01-2013, 01:46 PM   #1
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Is it time to move away from thr RYA

Ok there has been lots of talk to move away from the RYA but do you want to ?? if you do vote yes if you dont vote no and lets see were we go from here.
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Ok there has been lots of talk to move away from the RYA but do you want to ?? if you do vote yes if you dont vote no and lets see were we go from here.
Ok, What are the proposals and what are we voting for? is there anything in place for this?
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Old 21-01-2013, 08:09 PM   #3
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So who is going to run this breakaway group then ? personally i think its a bad idea.. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't !!
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If the same People are calling the shots i dont think we would be any better off and how many times has this idea been mentioned? . Pointless thread in my opinion.
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Ok there has been lots of talk to move away from the RYA but do you want to ?? if you do vote yes if you dont vote no and lets see were we go from here.
Totally pointless unless there is something else to vote for - which there isn't unless you know better?
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is the main reason for staying with the rya down to them providing insurance
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is the main reason for staying with the rya down to them providing insurance
I see more than that - rules, structure with scrutineers and other officials, affiliation with the UIM - if you left the RYA you wouldn't be eligible to enter a World or European Championship unless you got a license from another country or got the new organisation to recognise the new lot as the official representation for the UK, and for that to happen you would have to get the RYA to give it up!

Poker runs and similar events have no need of the RYA anyway, it's only structured racing they are interested in.
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And as i posted before, i believe the powerboat racing section is doing it to itself, but as far as rules go, i dont think thats a strong point to stick with as nothing seems to be adhered to anyway.
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And as i posted before, i believe the powerboat racing section is doing it to itself, but as far as rules go, i dont think thats a strong point to stick with as nothing seems to be adhered to anyway.
That's a fair point, but in order to break away all of that would have to be started from scratch, if you didn't want to be part of the International scene then it would be a relatively simple process and just require some 3rd party insurance.

Having said all of the above I know for a fact that the RYA would not allow anyone racing under a separate organisation race in their sanctioned competitions.
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That's a fair point, but in order to break away all of that would have to be started from scratch, if you didn't want to be part of the International scene then it would be a relatively simple process and just require some 3rd party insurance.

Having said all of the above I know for a fact that the RYA would not allow anyone racing under a separate organisation race in their sanctioned competitions.
Yes, as i was told regarding poker runs etc the rya wouldvnot sanction anything other than their events.

Regardingvthe intenational scene though, is no way of being UIM affiliated? for example ifthe FIA were to back it? not an idea just hypothetical scenario?
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Yes, as i was told regarding poker runs etc the rya wouldvnot sanction anything other than their events.

Regardingvthe intenational scene though, is no way of being UIM affiliated? for example ifthe FIA were to back it? not an idea just hypothetical scenario?
As I understand it Poker Runs are nothing to do with the RYA?

I don't think the FIA are anything to do with boats and the UIM won't allow two governing bodies in one country otherwise it would be chaos.
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No, Poker runs are nothing to poker runs, but someone did approach them regarding doing other events and they were not interested, shame really.

But hey ho. Mind you if they did they would want stupid fees anyway.
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Wouldn't it be much easier to get the Rya on board and sort out the problems (no I don't know how) it's often the little things that piss people off, for example one year a long time ago I got my measurement cert back tipexd out date and new stamp on top and the invoice for £60 thanks.
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Wouldn't it be much easier to get the Rya on board and sort out the problems (no I don't know how) it's often the little things that piss people off, for example one year a long time ago I got my measurement cert back tipexd out date and new stamp on top and the invoice for £60 thanks.
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Wouldn't it be much easier to get the Rya on board and sort out the problems (no I don't know how) it's often the little things that piss people off, for example one year a long time ago I got my measurement cert back tipexd out date and new stamp on top and the invoice for £60 thanks.
We sorted that one !! We use a FOC Logbook system now unless you want to race internationally !! Licences are relatively cheap. And most of the problems come from misinformed rumours !
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I haven't heard any rumours for a long time, in fact I haven't a clue what's going on, all I know is what I read on here and I take that with a pinch of salt.
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Ok there has been lots of talk to move away from the RYA but do you want to ?? if you do vote yes if you dont vote no and lets see were we go from here.
reminds me of the early 70's over here in NI......a death nail to powerboat racing here

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First of all I am not sure if any of you realize that he RYA are not a world wide recognized body. Just a uk organizing body. For example living in Spain the RYA license is just acceptable as an ability to drive a boat. Even if you are a comercial yacht master you can only skipper uk comercial craft. If you want to skipper a comercial Spanish boat you have to undertake the MCA 200 which is a government recognized certificate worldwide.

There is no reason what so ever that a club such as RMYC or any other club can run races under there jurisdiction if they affiliate to international rules such as UIM.

Providing the races are run under international rules and fully comply to this with the necessary qualified organizers and scrutineers etc there is nothing the RYA can do. If enough people get behind this then it is possible.

Please understand that the RYA are a organizing body not a governing body. not the law and not the controllers. With the right people and the right control a new body can be created with just power boating in mind. This can and would be recognized by international authorities. The RYA is not recognized in many EU countries as a creditable authority.

And always remember its the R YACHTING A not powerboat.
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There is no reason what so ever that a club such as RMYC or any other club can run races under there jurisdiction if they affiliate to international rules such as UIM.

I dont think clubs can affiliate to the world body, only national authorities, which in this case is the RYA.

To be fair, I dont think anyone can blame a national authority for "the state of the sport" as far as I see it, its the clubs that organise and the national authority that impliments.
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