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14-09-2006, 05:15 PM
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New class Hotboats is launched
After a very good meeting today with the RYA, the hotboats class will be launched as a National RYA Championship series for the 2007 season.
There will be 5 events each consisting of 2 races
The base rules for this new class are as follows
Hotboat 600 class Min boat lenght 23 feet, Min boat weight 1500 Kilos Max H/P 650 Min crew 2 inboard or outboard Single or twin engine all safety equipment will be as per PB1
Mono or Multihull. Although it is intended to run multi and mono hull together they will not be racing against each other, they will be a sub divison so monos race monos, Multihull race Multihull
Hotboat 1000 Class
Min boat lenght 27 ft, No maximum Min weight will be determined by power to weight ration of 1 H/P per 4.5 Kilos Max H/P 1100 Inboard or Outboard Single or Twin Engine Min crew 2 Safety Equip as per PB1 Mono or Multihull again the above applies.
We hope to launch the new class at The London boatshow, If anyone requires information please let us know. This new series will be run by the Hotboats racing association who can be contacted via email at hotboatsracing@aol.com
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14-09-2006, 06:04 PM
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good luck, will be looking forward to seeing the new class in action, although I do have one question hotboat 600 at 1500Kg and 650HP that gives 1HP to 2.31KG making it more potent than class 1, let alone your own hotboat 1000????? Buzzi bullet ran with 600HP and 2700KG and still did 80MPH or have I misunderstood
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14-09-2006, 10:21 PM
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gary good luck if you need any help please call me
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15-09-2006, 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by cfun
good luck, will be looking forward to seeing the new class in action, although I do have one question hotboat 600 at 1500Kg and 650HP that gives 1HP to 2.31KG making it more potent than class 1, let alone your own hotboat 1000????? Buzzi bullet ran with 600HP and 2700KG and still did 80MPH or have I misunderstood
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I think & Gary can correct me if I'm wrong the HP/KG ratio applies to all boats. So a 1500kg boat could only run 333hp.
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15-09-2006, 10:54 AM
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The hp / kg ratio for hotboats 600 is 3 kg per hp so if you want to run the full 650 hp you will need to be 1950 kg the minimum weight for any boat in this class is 1500 kg and at that weight you can run 500 hp. So it is min boat length 23 feet min weight is 1500 kg max power 650. hp / kg ratio of 1 hp per 3 kg .
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15-09-2006, 08:03 PM
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Does the minimum weight include a full fuel load or is it a dry weight ?
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16-09-2006, 11:59 AM
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Ideal boat and she is for sale - can pass details on if required!
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16-09-2006, 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by flightracingteam
The hp / kg ratio for hotboats 600 is 3 kg per hp so if you want to run the full 650 hp you will need to be 1950 kg the minimum weight for any boat in this class is 1500 kg and at that weight you can run 500 hp. So it is min boat length 23 feet min weight is 1500 kg max power 650. hp / kg ratio of 1 hp per 3 kg .
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Thank you for the reply, like most motorsport fans I wish all goes well in your new hotboat series, although I still think (and who am I to think) that in particular hotboat 600 reg's are well....
good luck though
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17-09-2006, 11:17 PM
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The Minimum weight is with no fuel
Hope that answers your question
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17-09-2006, 11:22 PM
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Cfun
Our Ski race friends run the 600 Class kind of power all the time, with a skier hanging on the back, so i do not think that it is too much to worry about.
The RYA certainly are not worried about it, and it was at their request that the power was increased to 650 H/P so that the big racing Ribs can come and join this class. The more the merrier as the more types of different boats the better the compertition, and the more people that get to go out into this new national class.
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18-09-2006, 10:10 AM
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OK thank you, it will certainly be great to see more boats out racing in the British series, so I hope all goes well for you during the winter months in preparation for next season
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18-09-2006, 10:26 AM
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I am really keen on working out a suitable engine for the boat. And some serious re-inforcing for the hull...
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20-09-2006, 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by flightracingteam
The RYA certainly are not worried about it, and it was at their request that the power was increased to 650
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When you say the "RYA", who exactly are you referring to, as I was talking to an official at the boatshow on friday who was suprised to hear that the class had been approved by them?
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20-09-2006, 04:51 PM
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Hi Tony i had a meeting with JP on thursday 14 sep he is very enthusiastic about the new class and it is in hand to have the new class rules sent to the RYA so that ORC and SAT can work on it. just so you no i am an RYA official i am the Chairman of Course Approvals and chairman of race administration group and sit on the ORC.I am a RYA Commissioner and Safety officer so i no a bit about racing and how it works. just so you no we now have 20 boats that want to race in the new class.
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20-09-2006, 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by flightracingteam
Hi Tony i had a meeting with JP on thursday 14 sep he is very enthusiastic about the new class and it is in hand to have the new class rules sent to the RYA so that ORC and SAT can work on it. just so you no i am an RYA official i am the Chairman of Course Approvals and chairman of race administration group and sit on the ORC.I am a RYA Commissioner and Safety officer so i no a bit about racing and how it works. just so you no we now have 20 boats that want to race in the new class.
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Thought as much.......
I appreciate that your experienced in all thing racing, but having been to ORC meetings myself I know how things work as well...
i must have misunderstood your previous post though, as I read it as that the class had been approved, where as I now understand that puddifoot likes the sound of it....
Shame it so far only has the approval of possibly the most disliked person in powerboat racing..... (imho of course)
Any chance of listing the 20 boats, would be nice to know the possible competition should i decide to compete.
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20-09-2006, 06:05 PM
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Would also be noce to know what venues you have secured b4 I put 700kg of ballast in my boat.
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20-09-2006, 06:16 PM
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Tony the only limit to what can be achieved is in the mind.
Powerboat racing in the uk needs more competitors more Ras a Matas and we need to put the power back in to powerboat racing with help i can do this. and i am doing it in full view up front so all can see.
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20-09-2006, 06:24 PM
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CB1 we are working on venues at the moment
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20-09-2006, 06:53 PM
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Shame it so far only has the approval of possibly the most disliked person in powerboat racing......
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How can you say that about the most nicest chap I have ever met
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20-09-2006, 07:04 PM
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How can you say that about the most nicest chap I have ever met
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And I thought it was me as the nicest chap after saturday.....
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