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05-11-2006, 10:41 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally posted by the bandit
i know nothing:
But to set a single engine centre you must be frigging mad:
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Why?
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06-11-2006, 07:54 AM
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#22
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
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Location: Mallorca
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Hi Wacky Racer, Thanks for that. I would be very interested in finding this out. Thanks.
Peter
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06-11-2006, 07:56 AM
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#23
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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Hi The Bandit,
Please elaborate on your comment.
Peter
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06-11-2006, 08:18 AM
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#24
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Senior Member
Country: England
Location: Watford
Occupation: Private Hire Company
Interests: Boats Cars women and wine
Boat name: The Bandit & The Bandit1
Boat make: Revenger San Marino & Hunton Rib
Engines: For sale Twin 225 Opti's
Cruising area: The Solent
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Watford
Posts: 298
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As i said: i know nothing
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06-11-2006, 09:46 AM
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#25
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Ringle@der
Country: England
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Interests: Water Ski Racing.
Boat name: Both called ‘Irresistible’.
Boat make: Bernico F1 Twin, Monterey 265SC.
Engines: 2 x Mercury 300XS's, Yanmar 315.
Cruising area: South and east coasts. Eastbourne Marina.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Posts: 758
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Wacky, I'm sure your right about p 201 being John Lonsdales number and Chasewater boat numbers were prefixed "P" but didn't John's old boat put in an appearance at some of the British nationals this season? Did he have more than one P21?
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06-11-2006, 09:49 AM
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#26
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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Hi Gar163y, Is there any way of me getting hold of John Lonsdale. There was no visible signs of a name on the boat but the number could be seen clearly on the white panel. This suggests to me, that the number had been there for quite some time.
Peter
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06-11-2006, 10:49 AM
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#27
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Ringle@der
Country: England
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Interests: Water Ski Racing.
Boat name: Both called ‘Irresistible’.
Boat make: Bernico F1 Twin, Monterey 265SC.
Engines: 2 x Mercury 300XS's, Yanmar 315.
Cruising area: South and east coasts. Eastbourne Marina.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Posts: 758
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I never knew John beyond nodding terms. I believe he lived fairly local to the Chasewater club in Cannock where he was a member. I think other people still currently ski-racing should be able to help or perhaps another Chasewater member. I first met John in the late 80's when he was race organiser of the All-Regions. We had travelled up early on the Thursday and when he found out that we had been on the water for some unofficial practice he tore me off a strip! The midlanders liked to keep their freshwater advantage.
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06-11-2006, 01:32 PM
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#28
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: kent
Occupation: director
Interests: ski racing
Boat name: hotshot
Boat make: cyclone 21
Engines: mercury 280
Cruising area: global
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: kent
Posts: 419
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John Lonsdales boat ended up a sort of purple colour and was ski-raced very recently, cannot remember name of feller who bought it, fairly big lad with red hair i recall.
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06-11-2006, 01:43 PM
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#29
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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Hi Bazza, this being the case, it's not his. All I could get from the guy I bought it from, was that he bought it from a guy who was in the british forces, stationed in Portugal, I think. I've owned her since the end of September last year (2005). she has been silver, black and other colours, including some fluresent yellow and orange. She had been beached a lot on gravel, going by the gell coat damage underneeth.
Peter
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06-11-2006, 01:59 PM
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#30
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Occupation: Marine engineer/electrician
Interests: Boat, Landy, and other toys :)
Boat name: Mad Max/Master Fiddler
Boat make: Phantom 18/Fletcher Bravo
Engines: Merc XR2
Cruising area: Solent/IOW
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Posts: 935
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Hi, did you have any problems with the structural parts of the boats or gel coat etc? (apart from the repairs you mentioned?), anything that might be a result of the age of the boat?
I might be doing one soon so was wondering if I'm likely to find any nightmares in stringers/transom etc?
Cheers, Max
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06-11-2006, 02:45 PM
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#31
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Registered User
Country: Denmark
Boat make: Cobalt 263
Engines: Merc HP500EFI
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 467
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Quote:
Originally posted by Peterjfinch
I've set the engine up in the center now, as pic below
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Aouch.!!
XL leg = serious setup issues...
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"you can't live in the past nor future, only the present - so enjoy the ride"
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06-11-2006, 03:42 PM
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#32
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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Hi Max, No, nothing serious. I had the floor and tank out, went through as much of the structure as I could. The major problems wer, removing all the different coats of paint, then filling all the gell coat damage. In my opinion, she is a very strong boat but she was abused. If you send me an email address I can send you pics of the stages.
Peter
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06-11-2006, 03:43 PM
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#33
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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Hi Lars, don't scare me. I was advised to fit the xl as per the transom length. What problems could I come up against?
Peter
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06-11-2006, 04:02 PM
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#34
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Ringle@der
Country: England
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Interests: Water Ski Racing.
Boat name: Both called ‘Irresistible’.
Boat make: Bernico F1 Twin, Monterey 265SC.
Engines: 2 x Mercury 300XS's, Yanmar 315.
Cruising area: South and east coasts. Eastbourne Marina.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Posts: 758
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bazza
John Lonsdales boat ended up a sort of purple colour and was ski-raced very recently, cannot remember name of feller who bought it, fairly big lad with red hair i recall.
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Yes Bazza, his name's Roy and I'm sure he knows John Lonsdale well.
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06-11-2006, 04:07 PM
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#35
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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Hi all, I,ve recently received an email from the BWSF "Peter,
Yes this was John Lonsdale's boat in later years sold to Peter Taylor and then Roy Taylor if you look on the right hand side of the engine well there is a number from that it is possible to trace the history."
This was based on the number P201 but if it was raced very recently, it can't be the same boat.
The plot thickens
Peter
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06-11-2006, 05:14 PM
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#36
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: South West
Boat make: Cyclone/ Cyclone/Rinker
Engines: Merc 2.5 efi's/300XS/5.0 v8
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Location: South West
Posts: 592
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This is not the purple hull as that is a later boat with molded screen circa 96 I think, and the colour is in the gel, I am talking about the boat that he had before the purple one.
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06-11-2006, 05:28 PM
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#37
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Registered User
Location: Belgium
Interests: Boating
Boat make: Hydrostream HST
Engines: Merc 2.5 200
Cruising area: The Schelde
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Posts: 468
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if i were you i had mounted the motor in the same holes like before! Mine was also mounted 3cm out of centre. On a 5m30 fletcher and 140hp. If i would reinstall it again i would set it 4cm out of the center. What they here say is right by moving your battery etc to the other side. Vut if your boat is lying on the dock it's not floating flat. Just take her out for a ride an see what it says... Testing is the only way to know it! I hope she performs well. You did a nice rapaint.
Good luck!
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06-11-2006, 05:53 PM
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#38
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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hi Wacky, Any ideas on how to find out, for sure and get more info about her.
Peter
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06-11-2006, 05:56 PM
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#39
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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Hi Bigboy, your comments are noted. This is something I had no idea about. I've had her out once but the weather was a bit rough and I didn't want to push it, first time out. I'll see how she behaves the next time. Thanks for your comment, re repaint. Allgrip is difficult to paint but a great finish. Should see her through the next ten years or so.
Peter
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06-11-2006, 06:06 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Another thing to take into account, is that the original mounting holes look a bit elongated in the pic of the transom, not a good thing.
I'm sure it'll be fine in the centre, and it has nice shiney new holes!
jf
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