Pre RYA

[JBP]

Originally posted by verytricky
Are you sure of that?

Some places have specifically been helpful *because* the harbourmaster or local important people are pushing the events, not because of the RYA insignia..

The Deauville ralley got permission to travel 30 miles an hour under towerbridge all the way to the PLA limits, *guided* by the PLA master, and not a RYA flag in sight. I think the event sells, and if done correctly the event will go ahead. The RYA flag *may* assist, but I really dont think so.

Ah perhaps there is the point, but if events are of that scale/prestige then even the local rowing club can set it up, however, most UK events do not have that luxury and are set up and operated by affiliated RYA clubs on very tight bugets, so the RYA element is a comfort factor in this for the local authorities eyes who sually have the final say.

[Johnny Rocket]

Originally posted by JBP
if events are of that scale/prestige

What, exactly, do you imagine the "scale" or "prestige" of the Deauville Rally to be?

[JBP]

Originally posted by Johnny Rocket
What, exactly, do you imagine the "scale" or "prestige" of the Deauville Rally to be?

Dunno but if it goes up the thames then off to Deuville it's got potential. Plus they got an event specific web site...
http://www.deauvillerally.com/deauvillerally/index.htm

£900 entry fees etc

[verytricky]

My point exactly!

A group of people with little (or no ) experiance, dream up an idea, approach the authorities and BANG - full co-operation, full assistance, and not a single member of or RYA flag in evidence!

[BluFin]

Lets face it the web presence of so may boat clubs and organisers is pretty poor, cowes classic & UKOBA are but two.
When I look for a Car, holiday, laser cartridge, parts for the boiler, or whatever else first point of call is the net.
A good web presence & site goes a long way and they have yet to learn that.
Agree or disagree the LOPC has a good web presence putting the more established clubs & organisers to shame.
Geez look at the internet value of some of the internet companies It's all projected earnings & all they got is a rented office & a couple of grand in leased servers yet they valued at silly amounts (hence that crash a while back)
Wakey Wakey ......... Improve you presence & exposure ( just have a peek at some of the US & Scandhooligan web sites as examples)

[JBP]

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[JBP]

Originally Posted by verytricky

I also looked at a way to get V24 out of the RYA clutches. But there appeared to be no way to do so. There were options of a foreign international licence, but then each event would have to be a European, and there were costs with that.

I dont believe the RYA opperates at a loss.

I do think that the licence should be seperated from insurances etc. - The insurance should be on a race by race basis, and not lumped in with your initial licence. My National licence for Ana and myself set us back shy of £1000. We raced three national events. This runs out at about £300 per race for a licence! So my idea would be a licence fee of around £25 per year. Then each race would have an insurance cost ( Actual cost ) on top of the entry fee. This would definately encorage some of the boats back into racing. There are for example 6 V24's hanging around not racing because they dont want to outlay £1000 for two races! But they would outlay £50 for the licence, and an extra £50 per race for insurance.

is this where the RYA took the event insurance idea from??

[caw blimey]

The RYA do not organize powerboat racing they administer it such as issue liecences ,insurance ect measurement certificates.
The costs incured are not just the insurance but a full time powerboat manager and administrive staff some full time and some part time.
It is the clubs that organize the racing.
We in Guernsey used race without the RYA we had our own insurance ect but were pushed into joining the RYA.
Due to high cost of entries and maintaing the rules which at that time did not take into account diferent types of racing and classes Powerboat racing died.
We looked to restarting again as a none affiliated club but no insurance company could offer a policy all company refered us to the RYA as the had the monopoly in the UK.

[BluFin]

Measurement Certificate cost
I've got a PC and a tape measure...........................

[SplitPin]

Originally Posted by Tony Davis

Why the Royal bit, I've got several RYA certificates on my wall, all signed by Princess Anne, but I don't recall seeing her standing in the pissing rain at Windermere cheering me on!

My Dad has pictures of her at the World's in Hartlepool in '94 I think, in the gales. But then I might be mistaken, it could have been Shergar!!!!!!

[Tony Davis]

[CUV 1]

Total Insurance is paid by clubs as calendar fees maybe via entry fee or club funds etc.

The RYA rather expensive overhead is covered by the very expensive Licence cost per competitor.

Remember also this is a lot dearer than circuit and x2 per boat for offshore.

Simply work the sums out from licence costs. RYA staff as an overhead is expensive. Ask any organiser of an offshore event any discipline how much work/time is put in by the RYA staff to make it happen.

The coommitees are all volunteers no expense

[BluFin]

See all the RYA needs is more volunteers & move to Consett or possibly more economic Mumbai

[Safety]

Originally Posted by CUV 1

Total Insurance is paid by clubs as calendar fees maybe via entry fee or club funds etc.

The RYA rather expensive overhead is covered by the very expensive Licence cost per competitor.

Remember also this is a lot dearer than circuit and x2 per boat for offshore.

Simply work the sums out from licence costs. RYA staff as an overhead is expensive. Ask any organiser of an offshore event any discipline how much work/time is put in by the RYA staff to make it happen.

The coommitees are all volunteers no expense

Not quite... We do get tea/ coffee and sandwiches.
But not travelling expenses. Its all in our own time, or what time we can STEAL from our employers!