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Old 22-01-2005, 07:56 PM   #1
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IF there was an additional race class, what in your opinion would it be? i.e what size raceboat and what HP rating??

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Old 22-01-2005, 08:23 PM   #2
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how about 18 foot and unlimited outboard hp
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Old 22-01-2005, 08:28 PM   #3
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IF there was an additional race class, what in your opinion would it be? i.e what size raceboat and what HP rating??

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Afordable & available or you got to have good sponsor and suppliers, but thenI know you could supply a superb 14' so half way there me thinks
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how about 18 foot and unlimited outboard hp
ok but thats not much different to most boats of that size anyway? how big an O/B can you go? 300? on 18'?
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Old 22-01-2005, 08:33 PM   #5
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Afordable & available
You have hit the nail on the head! A lot more newcomers would come into the sport if it was made more "afordable ", i wonder where all the Big boys started?
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Old 22-01-2005, 08:43 PM   #6
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what i'm trying to get at is ,

i would love to have a go at racing

BUT

the only thing i can do at age 33 is plunge straight into OCR , thats after splashing out on a rig! and to be perfectly honest i would find it a bit daunting...............
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Old 22-01-2005, 08:44 PM   #7
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gav id love to race my boat but im not going to drop down to a 2 litre outboard to do it, and seeing how most northern racer's run 2.5 engines they wont drop down either,anyway there's talk up here of starting our own race series up.
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Old 22-01-2005, 08:50 PM   #8
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gav id love to race my boat but im not going to drop down to a 2 litre outboard to do it, and seeing how most northern racer's run 2.5 engines they wont drop down either,anyway there's talk up here of starting our own race series up.

Sorry dont see your logic in that roofer If you had a passion to race surely you would sacrifice the power so as you could enter?
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Old 22-01-2005, 08:51 PM   #9
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gav you arent to far away from me you could join barrow powerboat club and come racing with us,15 races this year plus social side,and you could race your own boat. i think there's over 30 boats entered so far.if your interested pm me and i'll send you some info.
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Old 22-01-2005, 08:53 PM   #10
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sorry gav should have said i would love to race in ocr but limit is 2 litre.
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Old 22-01-2005, 09:01 PM   #11
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So to make it more affordable the equipment has to be readily available and once you've got the equipment, you shouldn't be able to modify it except to certain criteria.

You'll allways get someone who is prepared to spend as much as possible in order to win but if the regulations are tight it restricts what can be done.

E.g.
Class 1 Any monohull 13-14ft built between 1980-2005 of which a minimum 25 were built. Any engine up to 70h.p. built between same dates from the following manufacturers: Merc, Yam, Suz, Evin, etc.

Class 2 As above 14-15ft up to 90hp

Class 3 As above 15-17ft up to 140hp

No modifications allowed except for mandatory safety mods, std pitch props etc.

You could have a 'one make' championship running alongside at the same time and / or a Phantom/Ring Championship.

Just thoughts................
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Old 22-01-2005, 09:05 PM   #12
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gav you arent to far away from me you could join barrow powerboat club and come racing with us,15 races this year plus social side,and you could race your own boat. i think there's over 30 boats entered so far.if your interested pm me and i'll send you some info.
Roofer, is there a web-site related to Barrow powerboat racing, is it class structured, pictures anywhere etc.
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Old 22-01-2005, 09:10 PM   #13
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at the moment the racing is still on windermere until speed ban comes in and then racing transfers to ramsden dock in barrow.website not up and running yet
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Old 22-01-2005, 09:13 PM   #14
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at the moment the racing is still on windermere until speed ban comes in and then racing transfers to ramsden dock in barrow.website not up and running yet
Are all the boats Phantoms, Rings etc with big power.
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So to make it more affordable the equipment has to be readily available and once you've got the equipment, you shouldn't be able to modify it except to certain criteria.

You'll allways get someone who is prepared to spend as much as possible in order to win but if the regulations are tight it restricts what can be done.

E.g.
Class 1 Any monohull 13-14ft built between 1980-2005 of which a minimum 25 were built. Any engine up to 70h.p. built between same dates from the following manufacturers: Merc, Yam, Suz, Evin, etc.

Class 2 As above 14-15ft up to 90hp

Class 3 As above 15-17ft up to 140hp

No modifications allowed except for mandatory safety mods, std pitch props etc.

You could have a 'one make' championship running alongside at the same time and / or a Phantom/Ring Championship.

Just thoughts................
Sort of thing we do with the KCLASS

K200 12' sorcerer 20hp merc 2stroke age 8-12
K400 14' fletcher 40hp Yam 4 stroke age 12-15
K1000 16' phantom 60hp merc 4 stroke age 15-30

Most new 1 class racing work on 'new boat/engine' package with only a few just starting to come on the market as secondhand but the cheapest is zap/thundercat, wet & wild!!

Of course unless you got a good insurance broker you have to go to the RYA to run national races and they are keen to develope ideas and keep costs down in the first year or so, when established the n the licences move up to similar to other offshore/circit classes.
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Old 22-01-2005, 09:14 PM   #16
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no they do junior races as well 9 to 16.
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no they do junior races as well 9 to 16.
I assume you mean junior as in 'years old'
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Old 22-01-2005, 09:24 PM   #18
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try http://www.barrowbc.gov.uk/main.asp?page=1191
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Old 22-01-2005, 09:38 PM   #20
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Can you post some dates, I'd like to come and have a shuffty.....
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