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Old 05-08-2008, 07:17 PM   #1
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Race opportunity

AquaVITE 23 - all new double stepped monohull

We will be bringing into the country a few of these craft and would ideally find a team to race one next year. Goodness knows where racing is going - but the boat would make a great boat for 3C or for basic racing / whatever.

Not in a position to offer a hull - but can offer a subsidised deal, some equipment sponsorship and lots of other help. Maybe able to help with some sponsorship through my contacts as well.

Incase you wonder I will be having one of these boats myself - and may do the odd basic race - but I don't have time to race that much now. Also works much better when a client is successful!

Anyway - if of interest - please pm / e-mail / call me

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Old 05-08-2008, 07:20 PM   #2
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Not in a position to offer a hull - Adam

or to become a trade member you tightarse!
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:13 PM   #3
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Actually, Adam has approached me about advertising on boatmad, so don't panic.

However, thanks for thinking in the best interests of the site.
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Do you have a pic of what the deck will look like yet adam?
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:19 PM   #5
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I will put something together and add to the thread.

The design is complete - but where it has been a semi joint venture with the builders - we have not gone to the lengths of a full 3D CAD model. So will be just a 2D image.

Actual construction of the deck plug starts next week.
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Old 06-08-2008, 11:35 AM   #6
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Do you have a pic of what the deck will look like yet adam?
About all I can show at the moment. There have been a few changes since this - but basically along these lines.

The cockpit is a full 4 or 5 seat design. We do not have any plans to do a race deck version at this time - unless there was a lot of interest / racing takes off again.

The idea is to produce a very quick sportsboat - that can also be raced. Much more in line with the days when racing was largely up of Phantoms (not that they have done too badly recently!), Rings, Marshans etc.

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Its a shame that you don't do a 21 ft one for the ski racers. It would be good to see some competion to the Bernicos and Cyclones that most of them use, (with the occasional Phantom.)
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Its a shame that you don't do a 21 ft one for the ski racers. It would be good to see some competion to the Bernicos and Cyclones that most of them use, (with the occasional Phantom.)
Actually - it is a possibility and the builders have had some interest from abroad.

Being a stepped hull it is not just a case of shortening the main running surface - but we do have a scheme where we could put inserts into the aft two steps and thus get down to the length and also keep a good geometry over the steps.

Would certainly be fun to do!

By the way the reduction in measured length is only 0.2M.
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Actually - it is a possibility and the builders have had some interest from abroad.

Being a stepped hull it is not just a case of shortening the main running surface - but we do have a scheme where we could put inserts into the aft two steps and thus get down to the length and also keep a good geometry over the steps.

Would certainly be fun to do!

By the way the reduction in measured length is only 0.2M.
Adam as stated before I would be very interested in running one of thes in the worlds next year!!!
That would probably still be before I get my F**king Sequel!!!!
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That would probably still be before I get my F**king Sequel!!!!
Is it running a bit behind schedule?

I heard it was a Balsa / Aramat build, can you elaborate?

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Its a shame that you don't do a 21 ft one for the ski racers. It would be good to see some competion to the Bernicos and Cyclones that most of them use, (with the occasional Phantom.)
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isn't the bernico f1 is 23ft with a running surface of 21ft?
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Is it running a bit behind schedule?

I heard it was a Balsa / Aramat build, can you elaborate?

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Hi Jon yes the hull and deck is being built using Balsa and Aramat.
The deck is complete and out of the mould (has been for around a month)

The hull has been gel coated, along with a skin coat of fibreglass.
Apparentley (I have not seen for myself yet) two layers of Aramat have been applied.

I am having the Balsa applied to the full running surface and the freeboard up to the detail line.

The hull will have a built in belly and bow tank fed by one water pick-up to a 3 way diverter valve.

I have the tabs built ready, the steering is complete, foot throttle, foot rests, ski pole etc, trailer drawings are done just waiting for the bloody hull.

And yes I would say that 3 years is a little behind schedule Never again!
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Cool,

But ya don't want to be leaving it too long tween laminates! All the fall-out you get in a workshop situation will leave a nice release agent that will feck up the bond. Not to mention the fact that it should really all go in pretty much wet on wet, no more than 24 hours between succesive laminates, or there won't be a true chemical bond, just adhesion (adhesion hindered by the fall out mentioned above) and it'll de-lam at the drop of a hat. You don't really want that.
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The hull has been gel coated, along with a skin coat of fibreglass.
Apparentley (I have not seen for myself yet) two layers of Aramat have been applied.
Almost! I've seen it today as was repairing the factory gates, Gav says he's back on it next week
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Cool,

But ya don't want to be leaving it too long tween laminates! All the fall-out you get in a workshop situation will leave a nice release agent that will feck up the bond. Not to mention the fact that it should really all go in pretty much wet on wet, no more than 24 hours between succesive laminates, or there won't be a true chemical bond, just adhesion (adhesion hindered by the fall out mentioned above) and it'll de-lam at the drop of a hat. You don't really want that.

I take it the adhesion is like paint Jon, I.E. once the cure is complete all the cross-linking of the polymers has happened the next layer will only sit on the previous coat look like its bonded but would have cohesion failure if subjected to a pull off test say with a HATE gauge?

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Almost! I've seen it today as was repairing the factory gates, Gav says he's back on it next week
that should be class then
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Adam as stated before I would be very interested in running one of thes in the worlds next year!!!
That would probably still be before I get my F**king Sequel!!!!
I think what I may well do is bring in the one standard boat - as a demo and my own boat. At the same time I wil bring in one boat already 'shortened' to ski race legal.

That way anyone is welcome to demo ski behind my boat and get the general feel for the boat before taking further.

But would be very keen to get a boat (or more) on the ski race scene.
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Measurement is 6.5 meters max for a ski race boat, although I would like to measure the new TS Bernico to see what that is !
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I take it the adhesion is like paint Jon, I.E. once the cure is complete all the cross-linking of the polymers has happened the next layer will only sit on the previous coat look like its bonded but would have cohesion failure if subjected to a pull off test.

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Dunno much about paint, but that sounds exactly right.

There's living (or dying) proof that the 'leave it a few weeks tween laminates' principle don't work. So it aint just theory.
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Dunno much about paint, but that sounds exactly right.

There's living (or dying) proof that the 'leave it a few weeks tween laminates' principle don't work. So it aint just theory.
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