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Old 26-06-2008, 11:33 PM   #1
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RB08 results

Thought I'd start a new thread here to keep the results separate from the rest of the discussion.

The current "Overall Race Positions" published on the RB web site have several discrepancies with the results published for each leg.

Some of this is obviously down to penalties being dished out and subsequently taken back (or not). Some of it is just weird. There's precious little information on the RB web site, and from the statement on the home page this almost seems to be something that they are proud of . . .

From The Organisers of the Round Britain Powerboat Race.

We wish to make everyone aware that this Great Race is being run as a Corinthian Event primarily financed with the racers own money. It has therefore not been possible to have secretarial staff or any other expensive facilities supporting the event. We only have personnel who are giving their time free of charge to help the event and the racers. Therefore please understand that as the race and everyone associated with the race are moving everyday and due to the unusual format of the race, communications and information is very difficult. We make no apologies for this, our primary concern is for the racers and their race, everything else has to take second place.


It's not really helping the cause of powerboating as a spectator sport if they just give the finger to everyone who is following and supporting the race. I know that things aren't ideal for the organising team, but how hard could it possibly be to publish proper results (or just email them to someone to pass on) including details of the penalties?

Anyway, enough of my constructive criticism and back to the detective work. These are the differences:

Portsmouth to Plymouth
43 Swipewipes.co.uk (+30 minutes)
88 Tequila (-16)
110 Seafarer (+30)
185 GEE (+30)
343 Carbon Neutral (-20)

So presumably 43, 110 and 185 received 30 minute penalties after the original results were published. No idea why 88 and 343 had time taken off though - typo? timing problem?

Milford Haven to Bangor
2 Hot Lemon (-60 minutes)
4 Hardleys (-1)
16 Team Scorpion Dubois (-60)
33 Gutta Boyz (-10)
81 Wettpunkt.com (-50)
110 Seafarer (-60)
111 Venturer (-39)
185 GEE (-90)

My guess here is that 2, 16, 110 and 185 all had 60 minute penalties applied before the results were published, but all appealed successfully (with 185 also getting the 30 minutes back from leg 1). Again, no idea what happened with 4, 33, 81, 111

Bangor to Oban
Looks like nothing has changed. Yet!

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I think its best that we wait for tomorrow "Protest Committee" meeting - I will then post up the outcome - I am a little too close to be posting that kind of info here - hope you understand.
Any news? Are the currently published "Overall Race Positions" 100% correct?
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Old 27-06-2008, 12:16 AM   #2
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I think your results analysis is great - very useful/helpful.
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Old 27-06-2008, 12:19 AM   #3
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P.S. Spoke to Angela (she's downstairs doing wedding stuff with Vicki) and Swipes have had their penalty upheld.
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Old 27-06-2008, 12:52 AM   #4
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P.S. Spoke to Angela (she's downstairs doing wedding stuff with Vicki) and Swipes have had their penalty upheld.
Can someone translate that into english?

Penalty upheld means penalty is applied. Or ar you saying their appeal was successful?
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I am aware of what penalty upheld means, that's why I wrote it.
You seem to understand it too.
What's the confusion?
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Oh dear.... it looks like Jon & Nick's appeal wasn't successful as swipewipes.co.uk is now listed as 17th in the updated results.

It also appears as though Mike, Dave and Graham had a successful appeal as Hot Lemon is now in 4th overall.
This was posted several hours ago. You appear to have posted 'new' information, which makes me thing it is the opposite of this previous 'old' information....
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Thought I'd start a new thread here to keep the results separate from the rest of the discussion.
Fat chance!
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Old 27-06-2008, 12:57 AM   #8
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Posted as confirmation of Rocket's presumption.
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In fact, JF has also now posted confirmation
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Guys - from what I can see here (Inverness) is that the powers that be are doing their best with protests / results.

This race is hugely complicated for everyone, I suspect '69 and '84 were the same, the only difference was no instant communications, Dolphins, Sharks etc.

The safety, scruts and race control people are working 18 hours a day - give them a bit of slack.

Next post Edinburgh! Hope to get the finishing boats out to you asap!
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RB08 results

Good analysis - but one additional discrepancy may have been missed:
Portsmouth to Plymouth:
No. 8 (MC2) - originally posted as : 4hr 7mins 4secs
Now increased to: 4hr 7mins 41 secs
Original overall time: 11hrs 15mins 29secs
Revised overall time: 11hrs 16mins 06secs
A difference of +37secs.

Presumably not a penalty - maybe timing, typing or admin error.
More info may come to light over the next few days.
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Time 01:10 Cinzano and Silverline / Original Style now being craned in.

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The safety, scruts and race control people are working 18 hours a day - give them a bit of slack.
Nobody's criticised the race control, scrutineers or safety.
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Good analysis - but one additional discrepancy may have been missed:
Actually there were a couple of others with very small discrepancies, but I didn't want to be too picky!
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Time 01:10 Cinzano and Silverline / Original Style now being craned in.

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Oi! This is the results thread!

Have you got any answers about the results?
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Latest results are up: http://www.roundbritainrace.co.uk/resultsjune27.htm

Quite a few penalties dished out today!
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Wonder what "interference at start" was.
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Was it poss a protest, gotta remember Moray Firth is a big dolphin watch area, again this is only a guess.


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Top 30 overall

1 22 Lionhead Goldfish RIB 00:00:00
2 333 Blue FPT Buzzi 00:12:45
3 2 Hot Lemon Scorpion RIB 01:02:52
4 55 Braveheart III Scanner RIB 01:03:39
5 4 Hardleys Revenger 01:12:39
6 9 Vilda Dahl RIB 01:18:03
7 471 Silverline Buzzi 01:39:26
8 77 Sealbay Goldfish RIB 02:18:19
9 80 Seahound V Scorpion RIB 02:24:31
10 111 Venturer Buzzi RIB 02:33:19
11 7 Going Lean Sunseeker 02:48:58
12 110 Seafarer Scorpion RIB 03:39:58
13 8 Power Products Marine Phantom 03:41:52
14 343 Carbon Neutral Revenger RIB 03:56:19
15 16 Team Scorpion Dubois Scorpion RIB 04:32:44
16 43 Swipewipes.co.uk Phantom 04:43:17
17 69 The Bandit Hunton RIB 04:52:29
18 88 Tequila Scorpion RIB 05:12:49
19 96 Mr Mako Pascoe RIB 05:21:26
20 17 TFO Revenger 05:28:10
21 130 Fugitive Shakespeare 05:34:28
22 3 My Pleasure II Osprey RIB 05:44:56
23 81 Wettpunkt.com Buzzi 06:37:37
24 33 Gutta Boyz Goldfish RIB 06:41:29
25 102 Team Pulsar - Vampire Ribcraft RIB 06:55:45
26 15 Buro Botnia Targa 07:44:39
27 185 GEE Souter 07:51:31
28 101 Team Pulsar - Wolf Humber RIB 08:33:55
29 14 Mud Swell & Beers Picton RIB 09:10:07
30 747 Team 747 Fairey 09:43:00

Only 12 minutes 45 seconds between the top two, and less than a minute between 3 and 4!
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Positions by class:

HC1
1 185 GEE Souter 00:00:00
2 747 Team 747 Fairey 01:51:29

MC1
1 333 Blue FPT Buzzi 00:00:00
2 55 Braveheart III Scanner RIB 00:50:54
3 80 Seahound V Scorpion RIB 02:11:46
4 16 Team Scorpion Dubois Scorpion RIB 04:19:59
5 15 Buro Botnia Targa 07:31:54
6 12 Birretta Buzzi RIB 11:28:11
7 6 Mystic Dragon Scorpion RIB 11:56:12

MC2
1 8 Power Products Marine Phantom 00:00:00
2 17 TFO Revenger 01:46:18
3 130 Fugitive Shakespeare 01:52:36
4 5 Northern Spirit Flipper 10:23:30

RB1
1 111 Venturer Buzzi RIB 00:00:00
2 81 Wettpunkt.com Buzzi 04:04:18

RB2
1 471 Silverline Buzzi 00:00:00
2 69 The Bandit Hunton RIB 03:13:03

RB3
1 22 Lionhead Goldfish RIB 00:00:00
2 33 Gutta Boyz Goldfish RIB 00:23:37
3 4 Hardleys Revenger RIB 00:41:32
4 9 Vilda Dahl RIB 01:03:55
5 2 Hot Lemon Scorpion RIB 01:32:39
6 7 Going Lean Sunseeker 01:33:22
7 343 Carbon Neutral Revenger RIB 02:25:01
8 47 Relentless Revenger RIB 03:09:26
9 110 Seafarer Scorpion RIB 03:11:39
10 88 Tequila Scorpion RIB 03:26:59

RB4
1 77 Sealbay Goldfish RIB 00:00:00
2 43 Swipewipes.co.uk Phantom 02:24:58
3 96 Mr Mako Pascoe RIB 03:03:07
4 3 My Pleasure II Osprey RIB 03:26:37
5 102 Team Pulsar - Vampire Ribcraft RIB 04:37:26
6 101 Team Pulsar - Wolf Humber RIB 06:15:36
7 14 Mud Swell & Beers Picton RIB 06:51:48
8 10 Black Gold Scorpion RIB 17:17:27
9 45 Team Jersey Mannefelt 18:07:09
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