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13-12-2011, 10:52 AM
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BananaShark Member
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Roll bars
Got a document in the email last night telling me that we will have to fit roll bars in the future to OCR, S250, F400, E900 and E1500 - in addition to side impact protection - my worry is that it would be difficult to make it strong enough to prevent it getting crushed in some circumstances and trapping the occupants without making it so heavy as to make the boat unstable?
The attachment points would also have to be much stronger than a regular layup to prevent it either destroying the boat or getting ripped off in a minor incident, also making the boat heavier above the centre of gravity?
Any thoughts?
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13-12-2011, 10:54 AM
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Senior Member
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I think someone is having you on !! Roll bars were looked at and disgarded a couple of years ago !!
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13-12-2011, 10:59 AM
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something like the jet sprint boats
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13-12-2011, 11:01 AM
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Were we not supposed to have the results of the safety review published on the 9th?
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13-12-2011, 11:04 AM
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Registered User
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and if this is true, what a f*cking ridiculous and downright dangerous idea... Roll bars in cars are only effective with a full harness, and a full harness in an open boat is a death wish. Any kind of incident such as a severe hook where someone is thrown clear of the boat is gonna have them smashing into a roll bar instead!!
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13-12-2011, 11:10 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl
something like the jet sprint boats
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Thats fine when you are strapped in and racing in a field !!
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13-12-2011, 11:11 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul E
and if this is true, what a f*cking ridiculous and downright dangerous idea... Roll bars in cars are only effective with a full harness, and a full harness in an open boat is a death wish. Any kind of incident such as a severe hook where someone is thrown clear of the boat is gonna have them smashing into a roll bar instead!!
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Thats why it was disgarded !!
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13-12-2011, 11:12 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Got a document in the email last night telling me that we will have to fit roll bars in the future to OCR, S250, F400, E900 and E1500 - in addition to side impact protection - my worry is that it would be difficult to make it strong enough to prevent it getting crushed in some circumstances and trapping the occupants without making it so heavy as to make the boat unstable?
The attachment points would also have to be much stronger than a regular layup to prevent it either destroying the boat or getting ripped off in a minor incident, also making the boat heavier above the centre of gravity?
Any thoughts?
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There are enough rumours ruining our sport we dont need any more. Where has this one come from??
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13-12-2011, 11:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OCRDA
Thats fine when you are strapped in and racing in a field !!
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totally agree,i think puddifoot had something to do with field racing
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13-12-2011, 11:28 AM
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BananaShark Member
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OK clarified now it was discussed but thrown out but not minuted!
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13-12-2011, 11:28 AM
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panic over
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13-12-2011, 11:45 AM
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Senior Member
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Oh that one !! I thought he was talking about something new !! That is attached to the minutes of last ORC meeting and was circulated a while ago to our members. I cant see any mention of introducing Roll Bars though !!
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13-12-2011, 11:54 AM
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Location: Christchurch, Dorset
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Roll BArs
I think you will find that the text in black was ideas for discussion.
The text lower down in red is what was agreed.
The main thing is don't worry.
Don't listen to hearsay.
All will become apparent through the official channels as soon as possible.
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13-12-2011, 12:04 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pennpromo
I think you will find that the text in black was ideas for discussion.
The text lower down in red is what was agreed.
The main thing is don't worry.
Don't listen to hearsay.
All will become apparent through the official channels as soon as possible.
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Please can we have the Official Rule changes out to clubs by the 9th December as promised !!
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03-01-2012, 10:51 PM
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Any news ? ... Anyone ?
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04-01-2012, 12:18 AM
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Senior Member
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Surprise, Surprise, No !!
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04-01-2012, 12:35 AM
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Realistically is it too late to implement a major change like this for this season?
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04-01-2012, 09:14 AM
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Major change like what ??
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04-01-2012, 10:34 AM
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Beg pardon, i should have written with the season creeping upw ould any rule changes along this line (whatever should be decided) be made for the 2013 season now? Just a thought really.
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04-01-2012, 01:13 PM
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BananaShark Member
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There was a December 31st deadline so I'm sure we'll hear something soon!
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