Rules 1, Competitor nil! - Page 2

Carl · 13-07-2010, 07:07 PM

you like that word "special" dont you

Jon Fuller · 13-07-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Davis

7 inches bigger!!!!!

There has to be a line in the sand somewhere. you just need to make sure you're the right side of it.

Carl · 13-07-2010, 07:15 PM

dont forget the engines are wrong aswell (just)

Jon Fuller · 13-07-2010, 07:20 PM

There was a lot of pressure to encourage green motors, and discourage dirty motors. so if they were optis at that capacity, they'd fit.

Still really surprised it measures at only 26'5". I thought they were bang on 28' LOA, so am amazed you lose 19" in transom rake, even with the extra transom angle of the OB version.

might measure mine tomorrow.

cfun · 13-07-2010, 07:24 PM

I guess their are no basic boats ... ie ... run what you brung eligible to take part in the CTC such as an ex pro Vee boat etc that obviously would be outside the points system for the marathon series but could run anyway

But this boat could run CPC could it not as this is open to any type of pleasure/poker run style boat

Perhaps he should of got this instead ...

FABIO BUZZI designed raceboat. Built by FOUNTAIN POWERBOATS in 1998. (Former Treadwell A Outlaw.) 32' hull with 2 steps plus 6' extension box. 8 hours test time only since complete re-rig and structural upgrading, in storage past 4 years. Features F-16 canopy, Gaffrig instruments, 4 blade #6 surface drive prop, modified ZF Hurth transmission, new Stainless Marine custom exhaust system, fresh Teague Custom Marine 506 CI Merlin race engine, with 8 hours test time only. New custom aluminum tri-axle trailer included. Trades considered. $48500

Tony Davis · 13-07-2010, 07:42 PM

FWIW, the boat was officially measured this morning, and was 26' 5" . Everyone, including myself were suprised at the length, but the tape measure doesn't lie.

The owner was understandably upset, but having spoken to Mr RYA, is relived to hear that it will all be sorted in the morning, and he will be able to race.

Dunno if any palms were greased, but common sense prevails, albeit with a slight rule change I expect!!!!!

Ciao · 13-07-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Davis

FWIW, the boat was officially measured this morning, and was 26' 5" . Everyone, including myself were suprised at the length, but the tape measure doesn't lie.

The owner was understandably upset, but having spoken to Mr RYA, is relived to hear that it will all be sorted in the morning, and he will be able to race.

Dunno if any palms were greased, but common sense prevails, albeit with a slight rule change I expect!!!!!

A happy end to an unhappy post-

Entry Form please!

Captain Chaos · 13-07-2010, 08:04 PM

John, if JP wishes to take the "i'll sort it" route with 2 licence applications. You can have the bank transfer and entry form the next minute!

Ciao · 13-07-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

John, if JP wishes to take the "i'll sort it" route with 2 licence applications. You can have the bank transfer and entry form the next minute!

Best you speak to JP - I am just the monkey who serves the Ferrero Rocher at the event.

Captain Chaos · 13-07-2010, 08:31 PM

is it the ambassadors reception?

Scand · 14-07-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Davis

FWIW, the boat was officially measured this morning, and was 26' 5" . Everyone, including myself were suprised at the length, but the tape measure doesn't lie.

The owner was understandably upset, but having spoken to Mr RYA, is relived to hear that it will all be sorted in the morning, and he will be able to race.

Dunno if any palms were greased, but common sense prevails, albeit with a slight rule change I expect!!!!!

Is he still racing in the C-class?

OCRDA · 14-07-2010, 09:12 AM

So !! Jon, HOW surprised are you that it only measures 26' 5" ??

Sounds as though there needs to be a length tolerance !! 27ft + or - 8 inches !!

When OCR went to 2 litre the rule came out from the powers that be as Min 18'6". (with the exception of the Phantom 18 at 18' 4") and they now only measure 17' 11" but even this did not stop them !!

Bob

Adam · 14-07-2010, 09:20 AM

Rules need looking at...........

Carl · 14-07-2010, 09:22 AM

rules need sticking to

Adam · 14-07-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl

rules need sticking to

Yes - but they could be better - rules with most froms of motorsport do evolve and improve. Especially so with new classes / types of racing. This is not un-natural.

There are clearly many details areas where things could be better and encourage more competitors and also give more options within classes

Jon Fuller · 14-07-2010, 09:55 AM

A tolerance just sounds bonkers!

If 27' -8" is ok, the rule should be min length = 26'4". why would you have a daft 'tolerance' that basically says the same thing as changing the min length number?

Anyway, my own opinion is, a P28 is smaller than 'intended' for C class, so I think that is fine, however, I would say that in hindsight, a P28 should definitely fit in D without any issues, so D should certainly have the min length reduced to ensure this can be.

As I say, I'm really surprised the P28 comes in so short, and the 27' rule for D was certainly there expecting such boats to run in it and was clearly a mistake in as much as the assumption was 27' would allow this.
I will try to measure mine today if I can, not that I doubt the measurer, but mine's an IB version (and original, not copy) so would like to know for my own interest.

J

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Originally Posted by OCRDA

So !! Jon, HOW surprised are you that it only measures 26' 5" ??

Sounds as though there needs to be a length tolerance !! 27ft + or - 8 inches !!

Bob

dowdy · 14-07-2010, 10:00 AM

Ivan Baker?Didnt know he had a brother.

Johnny Rocket · 14-07-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Davis

NO is the immediate answer, although it may be possible to grease a few palms etc!

What you obviously need to do is fit a set of tubes. Not only would it then measure OK, but it would imediately become a much better boat.

OCRDA · 14-07-2010, 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=Jon Fuller;184734]A tolerance just sounds bonkers!

If 27' -8" is ok, the rule should be min length = 26'4". why would you have a daft 'tolerance' that basically says the same thing as changing the min length number?

Because then it would be in keeping with some of the other dopey rules that we seem to have at the moment !!

Its no more stupid than taking the length from the tip of the bow to part way along the boat !!

The simple way is to use the overall length !! ie From the front to the back !!

Tony Davis · 14-07-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Rocket

What you obviously need to do is fit a set of tubes. Not only would it then measure OK, but it would imediately become a much better boat.

If only you knew!!!