How much does the Medical and Measurement Certificate Cost?I presume I would need a National License as I can't see any alternative on the Form
Cheers Nic
Medicals are being done for £35.00 on a first come first served basis at the Brass Monkey i believe
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Join a Club !!
You can only do two "NATIONAL" events on "BASIC" License !! Assuming it stays the same these are £60 per event and must be accompanied by a self decleration medical form !! Basic Events such as Brass Monkey, Allhallows shakedown, Cancer research etc are standalone basic events so the 2 licinse rule does not apply !!
You only need measurement (Compliance) certificate to compete nationally although as your (Nic Surrey) Boat is too small for 3c and Engine too big for OCR you are restricted to basic anyway. or Formula 200 (a basic class)alongside 3c !!
I am pushing a proposal for half price provisional licences to encourage new comers but that is still under negotiation.
There is no point in everyone contacting the RYA, they are there to administer the sport via their affilliated clubs !! The more that individuals pester them the less chance there is of them doing anything to help the clubs.
Simple really !!
So "JOIN A CLUB" ANY Club that is affilliated to the RYA will do.
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You can only do two "NATIONAL" events on "BASIC" License !! Assuming it stays the same these are £60 per event and must be accompanied by a self decleration medical form !! Basic Events such as Brass Monkey, Allhallows shakedown, Cancer research etc are standalone basic events so the 2 licinse rule does not apply !!
You only need measurement (Compliance) certificate to compete nationally although as your (Nic Surrey) Boat is too small for 3c and Engine too big for OCR you are restricted to basic anyway. or Formula 200 (a basic class)alongside 3c !!
I am pushing a proposal for half price provisional licences to encourage new comers but that is still under negotiation.
There is no point in everyone contacting the RYA, they are there to administer the sport via their affilliated clubs !! The more that individuals pester them the less chance there is of them doing anything to help the clubs.
Simple really !!
So "JOIN A CLUB" ANY Club that is affilliated to the RYA will do.
Bob thanks for some clarification,If you look at my previous posts I have asked lots of quetions and recieved a lot of good responses but the majority with either 'I think' Should be,probably can etc,so I thought rather than asking again and I presume the RYA make the rules I would contact them with E Mails and Webb site Search to no avail.I agree that if a person wishes to definately Race then joining a Club is the answer but if someone is at the thinking stage then surely making this info readily available via a webb site with definate/confirmed answers is the way to go,If someone broke the rules I presume its RYA that would dish out any punishments?I am a member of Weston Super Mare Club-(not sure if RYA affiliated)but thats predominently Ski racers but do not have a very local Race Club and would not particlarily want to keep pestering club officials.
Is the Basic License the same as an Event License?
My confusing over the Class for my boat but I thought a Phantom 20 competed last year in 3C
If you look at the 09 license application form what should I go for bearing in mind what I intend to do?
All help appreciated
Bob thanks for some clarification,If you look at my previous posts I have asked lots of quetions and recieved a lot of good responses but the majority with either 'I think' Should be,probably can etc,so I thought rather than asking again and I presume the RYA make the rules I would contact them with E Mails and Webb site Search to no avail.I agree that if a person wishes to definately Race then joining a Club is the answer but if someone is at the thinking stage then surely making this info readily available via a webb site with definate/confirmed answers is the way to go,If someone broke the rules I presume its RYA that would dish out any punishments?I am a member of Weston Super Mare Club-(not sure if RYA affiliated)but thats predominently Ski racers but do not have a very local Race Club and would not particlarily want to keep pestering club officials.
Is the Basic License the same as an Event License?
My confusing over the Class for my boat but I thought a Phantom 20 competed last year in 3C
If you look at the 09 license application form what should I go for bearing in mind what I intend to do?
All help appreciated
Nope that was a 21 with some refinments!! as it was me
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On form you can compete in all classes "UP TO" i.e. if you pay for 3c that will cover OCR A & B Class K Class etc. If you have a OCR B License it wont cover 3c so you only hav to tick the highest one and pay that ammount !! hope this maks sense.
If you do Brass Monkey on an Event (Basic) license for £60 this will be refunded when you buy a national license. But you will need to get the form signed by a senior club official.
If still not sure give me a call.
Good Luck
Bob
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So does that mean my marthon licence that I use to drive a 38 foot 1200Hp Top Gun also entitles me to race in S250 & F400 but not class III or Honda 150 or OCR C Class or Thundercat / Zapcat
You gotta admit thats funny, Anomalies are such strange things when they just happen
Or looking at it another way, one could race over as quite rightly intended open & extented waters many mles from shore but would need training to drive a V24 on a close to shore sheltered water race.
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Originally Posted by BluFin
So does that mean my marthon licence that I use to drive a 38 foot 1200Hp Top Gun also entitles me to race in S250 & F400 but not class III or Honda 150 or OCR C Class or Thundercat / Zapcat
You gotta admit thats funny, Anomalies are such strange things when they just happen
Or looking at it another way, one could race over as quite rightly intended open & extented waters many mles from shore but would need training to drive a V24 on a close to shore sheltered water race.
Are you lot that doppy or have I not explained it word by word !! Loosely speaking you can drive the classes which licenses cost up to the cost of yours !! Providing you qualify !!
As I have mentioned before you can always ask your club !! Thay have to sign it anyway.
Bob
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Guess I'm just doppy with a tad of a dry sense of humour if you missed the point I will highlight better without the indirect sarcasm.
One could take a 3000hp beatie and bash it around the coast with no training whatsoever but you would need training to drive something smaller that remains in sheltered water, just dont seem logical thats all, just highlighting the abstract situation. You could do a lot more damage with that big rig ...............
Just a little surprised that the RYA & all of its sub commites have never even thought about it.
Guess I'm just doppy with a tad of a dry sense of humour if you missed the point I will highlight better without the indirect sarcasm.
One could take a 3000hp beatie and bash it around the coast with no training whatsoever but you would need training to drive something smaller that remains in sheltered water, just dont seem logical thats all, just highlighting the abstract situation. You could do a lot more damage with that big rig ...............
Just a little surprised that the RYA & all of its sub commites have never even thought about it.
You gotta admit Bob it is an Abstract issue
So Pic one No Training Required to drive
Pic 2 & 3 Training Required
Well technically it's only our 17 and under competitors that have compusary training, saying that if I took up the sport I'd rather know what I'd doing first as it's ya team partners life in your hands whether driving or navigating....
Look forward to seeing you at our taster weekend 31st Jan/1st Feb
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Originally Posted by BluFin
Instruction for V24's only then,
V24 = What's the term I'm looking for..................Special Needs (Thats it !!!)
Grin only kidding guys
Kids are really looking forward to it be a good day
V24's require 'special training' because they aparently suffer from restricted visability and their handling is suspect to people who have never driven a boat before. I believe this came about because when V24's suddenly became popular in around 2005, several people who had never driven a powerboat in thier lives before suddenly were faced with a powerful boat in close quarters racing - never having had any prior experiance.
I do think that a standard should be applied to all of the 'bigger' classes of boat, where you have to have shown a few races in a 'smaller' class of boat before you can be let loose in the 'bigger' boats.
In car racing you had to have competed in five regional races before you could race in a national race.
A similar thing could be applied to powerboat racing. P1 have rules that appear to work well. A simple solution could be that any competitor wishing to race in any national event would be issued with a provisional licence, which would require three basic events before it became a full licence eligable for national events. A short cut of a set training course could allow someone to bypass the three events rule by undergoing a course setdown by the RYA - as it may be a requirement for someone to take part in an event which occurs before three basic races have taken place.
The P1 rules should apply to basic races: The people racing on provisional or event licences start the race from a second muster, which kicks off 1 minute after the first muster. This delayed start is subtracted from their final time to ensure fairness in racing, but removes the beginner from the most dangerous part of the race, the mad dash to the first turn bouy. It would also spread out the field and allow more thinking time - which is always going to be a good thing.
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