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Old 19-08-2008, 10:13 PM   #21
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You can enter OCR and C3 nationals as a basic entry with little or no experience with racing !! and with very minimal entry fees, NO measurement fees, NO License fees. just turn up and race. WWRC (westcountry watersports racing club will even subsidise the entry for Salcombe (National or Basic) !!
So now you can just turn up and race at no more cost than tearing around the bay on Sunday afternoon !!

And how many will we get ??

So its not the cost !!

Its not the difficulty !!

So what is it ??

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Sinking and destroying the boat !!!!! ( No comments thanks.........) But I think Robs right. All you chaps and you know who you are, have a bit of fun and join in. Doesn't matter what engine you have, you can do the basic race ( is there a basic race Rob) I'm sure Cookie will do it again, Salcombe Honda!!! Dell , Pete , Robby, Jonny, Ok Ok Dells putting up £100.00 prize money !!!!!!!!!............
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Old 19-08-2008, 10:15 PM   #22
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i my opinion if you have to worry about the entry fees, you shouldnt even think about racing. the reason class 3 2 ltr and OCR and aliker are no longer popular is that you have to know what you are doing to enter and be competitive. This is why Honda is popular, you can be competitive straight out the box, with nothing but a sharp prop and practice.
Jonny change your engine status!!!!
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Old 19-08-2008, 10:17 PM   #23
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Bri, 100% and the question is why?
get some answers back in see what people are saying

I drop into that slot & it's a simple answer - dont have the time.

I thought quite long and hard before commiting on an engine 2.5 or 200XS. by going the 2.5 route I made sure it couldn't fit in anywhere and get tempted by that

It does break the heart to see so few there now when large fleets were so common.

The 2.5 merc is a limited 280 ROS run, race teams only that have registered via there dealer.
200XS replacement doubt it while they are laying people off left right, little birdie said Rouen but subject to finances, it didn't show - offshoot of the 175 XS
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Old 19-08-2008, 10:19 PM   #24
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Yeah Your right Brian, I have a race boat and would never race her, even in a basic because it cost me a lot of money and I would not be prepared to kane the ass of it and a chance of losing it for a TROPHY!!! - No incentive for me whatso ever, If a cash purse was involved then maybe more people would join with their race boats.
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Sinking and destroying the boat !!!!! ( No comments thanks.........) But I think Robs right. All you chaps and you know who you are, have a bit of fun and join in. Doesn't matter what engine you have, you can do the basic race ( is there a basic race Rob) I'm sure Cookie will do it again, Salcombe Honda!!! Dell , Pete , Robby, Jonny, Ok Ok Dells putting up £100.00 prize money !!!!!!!!!............
Yes there is a basic and I am sure most of C3 will be supporting it !! Rhino, Pearny, Scotty etc.

Dells not selling enough ice cream to support the locals so I guess the prize fund will be down to Reddish or Bananashark !!

Also an open basic in Looe October 11th !!
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Yeah Your right Brian, I have a race boat and would never race her, even in a basic because it cost me a lot of money and I would not be prepared to kane the ass of it and a chance of losing it for a TROPHY!!! - No incentive for me whatso ever, If a cash purse was involved then maybe more people would join with their race boats.
With a cash incentive there comes the people with more money than the average racer and the best of everything just to win and probably dare i say it cheating.
Alot of the guys i race against prob dont do it for the trophys anymore. They've been there and done it! Yes a trophy is nice but a good "blokes" chat at the bar after where obviuosly each person "went higher than the other off that one" and "exceeded the speed of sound down that piece of water" is much better!
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Old 19-08-2008, 10:53 PM   #27
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If a cash purse was involved then maybe more people would join with their race boats.

So that's the answer, someone just needs to print some money! why didn't someone else think of that.
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Old 19-08-2008, 10:55 PM   #28
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Yes there is a basic and I am sure most of C3 will be supporting it !! Rhino, Pearny, Scotty etc.

Dells not selling enough ice cream to support the locals so I guess the prize fund will be down to Reddish or Bananashark !!

Also an open basic in Looe October 11th !!
I guess both Dell and Cookie are too busy organising their wedding's !!!!!
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The local Council should cough up some money, think of the money the venues bring to the local economy, I know for sure this has happened in the past!!!
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Old 19-08-2008, 11:20 PM   #30
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I was going to say its because of apathy, but I can't be bothered....



Glad the 3Bs are coming out agin next year. Its where I started and it will great to see.

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I guess a lot of reasons - but to look at slightly differently - why would people want to race in 3C?

- good venues? maybe some some but not all
- well promoted series with coverage? no
- big racing fleets? no
- easy to start racing / be successful? probably not
- good value for money? increasingly not I would say
- easy availibility of boats / engines? not that great - but engines can still be found and the E-Tec is legal - but does not suit most boats that are available.

- etc etc

Not trying to criticse all who are trying hard to keep things going - but maybe needs a bit different approach.

As Brian says racing is never going to be cheap - but it still has to give value for money and perhaps some key areas need to be looked at

I feel that the classes need to be sorted out with somewhere some sense being made of 3C , OCRDA classes, 3B and K classes having a bit more logical feel to them. In terms of courses, marketing, clubs etc.

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Old 20-08-2008, 09:48 AM   #33
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i think scottys got it right,most of the people racing now do it for the social and be with like minded boat owners.All the years i raced in ocr the social was what everyone looked forward to,if you had a good result that was a bonus.I bet if you had free entry it would not attract any more entrys so i dont really believe the cost is putting people off.I think the weather is the main culprit,as racing in the rain and cold hardly encourages people to want to compete,whereas if we had hot sunny days i am sure it would create more interest.But the weather is not the fault of clubs,venues,sponsors,and dare i say it the rya.
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would have loved to do the basic in salcombe racing 150 or the p16 but honda are in the isle of man. salcombe honda specialists are not going however so i shall try and get them to do it! sorry red5 i will change my engine status straight away!!
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would have loved to do the basic in salcombe racing 150 or the p16 but honda are in the isle of man. salcombe honda specialists are not going however so i shall try and get them to do it! sorry red5 i will change my engine status straight away!!
could always race in the basic race in looe on october 11th
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would have loved to do the basic in salcombe racing 150 or the p16 but honda are in the isle of man. salcombe honda specialists are not going however so i shall try and get them to do it! sorry red5 i will change my engine status straight away!!
Good man .............
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Yes there is a basic and I am sure most of C3 will be supporting it !! Rhino, Pearny, Scotty etc.

Dells not selling enough ice cream to support the locals so I guess the prize fund will be down to Reddish or Bananashark !!

Also an open basic in Looe October 11th !!
ourselves & the factory are supporting a cancer charity event next year to the tune of £5000, i know how hard it is to raise money to run races but i think you'll all agree its a much more worthy cause
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p.s.. you try selling icecream in the rain (august).
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Thatll be sod all then......................................

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I guess both Dell and Cookie are too busy organising their wedding's !!!!!


Are they marrying ach other?
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