Why are people NOT Racing

[dowdy]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

Yep !! 33 x £65 = £2145.00 !! Another £1000 you can have the 3b P16 with it !!

Bob

Least we know the price now,hope you get a response on both

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by dowdy

Least we know the price now,hope you get a response on both

Brilliant! Offer and acceptance and breach in such a short passage of posts...I must re-read that it is a classic!

[dowdy]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

Brilliant! Offer and acceptance and breach in such a short passage of posts...I must re-read that it is a classic!

33 SHEKELS WAS THE BID PRICE,NOT 33 X 65,NOW ORCDA HAS POSTED A FIRM PRICE HOPEFULLY IT WILL SHIFT FOR HIM,JUST BOUGHT TWO 225 OPTIS SO AM HAPPY BUNNY RIGHT NOW

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by dowdy

33 SHEKELS WAS THE BID PRICE,NOT 33 X 65,NOW ORCDA HAS POSTED A FIRM PRICE HOPEFULLY IT WILL SHIFT FOR HIM,JUST BOUGHT TWO 225 OPTIS SO AM HAPPY BUNNY RIGHT NOW

Price was firmed in currency and conversion rate stated. As a result this is a clear contract where caveat emptor exists. Though I suspect the nature of the vendor is likely to enable the purchaser here to get out of the contract...hmm and terms of payment...you may be lucky!

[dowdy]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

Price was firmed in currency and conversion rate stated. As a result this is a clear contract where caveat emptor exists. Though I suspect the nature of the vendor is likely to enable the purchaser here to get out of the contract...hmm and terms of payment...you may be lucky!

Only Daredevil signs contracts,The only thing i will ever sign for is me Giro

[still no worries]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

Quote from Calendar thread !!

"But the new classes could be because there people don't agree with the current way things are run or believe in the clubs that are running now. " May be looking forward is not the answer but ask people who have stopped racing in the last 5 years or so as to why, you may get some idea as to why things have gone wrong"

Why are people not Racing ??

back in the mid 90,s there was ocr (some times 35+ boats) and offshore 1.3 and 2 litre with quite a few boats them selves and that was it (some one will correct me on that) now there's about a million classes to choose from, this cannot help ! (+cost)

[Jon Fuller]

I make it (mid 90's)

OCR 1.3, 1.8. 2.0

Offshore 1.3, 2.0. 4.0 class II, class 1, NPC/Touring and whatever rib classes there were.

Now we have...

OCR 1.3, 1.8

Offshore B, C, + Marathon A to E plus cruiser/historic, and Zap/Thundercat, though I feel they're sort of separate.

Then there's the 'commercial' classes, but like Honda, I'm not sure they can survive on their own merit without the financial input they get/got. sure I'll get shot down for that comment, but I dgaf, I think it's true.

So, yes, quite a few more classes. Is that the reason for current failure....dunno. I think boating just seems like a right fag these days, more aggro than ever, whether it's racing, or pleasure. Quite hard to be 'arsed' compared to 15 years ago. Maybe I'm just much too old.

[FLYING FISH]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

I make it (mid 90's)

OCR 1.3, 1.8. 2.0

Offshore 1.3, 2.0. 4.0 class II, class 1, NPC/Touring and whatever rib classes there were.

Now we have...

OCR 1.3, 1.8

Offshore B, C, + Marathon A to E plus cruiser/historic, and Zap/Thundercat, though I feel they're sort of separate.

Then there's the 'commercial' classes, but like Honda, I'm not sure they can survive on their own merit without the financial input they get/got. sure I'll get shot down for that comment, but I dgaf, I think it's true.

So, yes, quite a few more classes. Is that the reason for current failure....dunno. I think boating just seems like a right fag these days, more aggro than ever, whether it's racing, or pleasure. Quite hard to be 'arsed' compared to 15 years ago. Maybe I'm just much too old.

Yeah! you too old.Downhill from now on.Another 20yrs and all your be doing is looking back,bemoaning it`s not like the old days when Phantoms ruled the world and climbed 20ft seas on 40 mile open courses,and rightly so.

In actual fact if you listed all the U.S. classes in SBIP/OSS/OPA it would be horrendous,yet swap about depending which race they enter,and can race as many as 3 different classes for the same boat in one season,rather like the Cancer Race analogy i.e.Unlimited or Marathon `B` for example.

If the racers indicate they want to race,there is usually a way round it,but if the organisers are strangled enough,such that they can`t put a race on,or have so many restrictions put on them that does not encourage the racers to enter,then there is your stumbling block.Looe springs to mind.

If Guernsey is going to be the centre of the Universe racewise in 2011,is it because their organisation has cracked the politics,or is it not so apparent when racing the smaller classes,and then there are the frogs who are making UK racing look stupid with their set up.There is a reason for everything ,and if highlighted to the powers that be,then I would have thought this would be laid before them.

[OCRDA]

See attached !!
When I Started !! OCR A,B, 1.3 & 1.8 Ltr
Class 3 1.3, 2, 4 6Ltr
Class 2
Class 1

Now (See Attached)

If anyone wants to add or amend please let me know !!

Bob

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

See attached !!
When I Started !! OCR A,B, 1.3 & 1.8 Ltr
Class 3 1.3, 2, 4 6Ltr
Class 2
Class 1

Now (See Attached)

If anyone wants to add or amend please let me know !!

Bob

Truth is Bob this sport needs to move on. It needs leadership and it needs new ideas. You know my plans but take a look at this you powerboating lot and start to get real and in tune with the real market...sounds dull? But it is the future and this industry need to innovate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/default.stm

And JF? What do you think about my concept of marathon?

www.ecochallengers.co.uk

[OCRDA]

Originally Posted by Scream-it.com

Truth is Bob this sport needs to move on. It needs leadership and it needs new ideas. You know my plans but take a look at this you powerboating lot and start to get real and in tune with the real market...sounds dull? But it is the future and this industry need to innovate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/default.stm

And JF? What do you think about my concept of marathon?

www.ecochallengers.co.uk

God Help us all !! F1 that sound like Hair Dryers !! How long before XCats start using Etecs or Verado's ?? This is why the country cant cope with the weather !! Us all interfering with Global Warming. If we all stop recycling and start using proper fuel again etc. then the Planet might warm up a bit, The tide will rise and we can all spend more time boating !!

[cosworth mirage]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

I have got one !! How much do you want to spend ??

Bob

I thought you were looking for people to come back into ocr lol

I am sure you can do a better deal than that I,m in the motor trade not the diamond trade

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

God Help us all !! F1 that sound like Hair Dryers !! How long before XCats start using Etecs or Verado's ?? This is why the country cant cope with the weather !! Us all interfering with Global Warming. If we all stop recycling and start using proper fuel again etc. then the Planet might warm up a bit, The tide will rise and we can all spend more time boating !!

I know I know but don't be Canute! Get on board and get popular

I've been looking at Hydrogen this week...now that stuff really does howl!

[OCRDA]

Originally Posted by cosworth mirage

I thought you were looking for people to come back into ocr lol

I am sure you can do a better deal than that I,m in the motor trade not the diamond trade

Could do a better deal if someone is going to Race It !!

Happy to take something in Px !!

Bob

[cosworth mirage]

we could all switch to methanol thats environmently friendly and cheap and fast (its a tad firey but at 50p a ltr who cares)

[cooolaii]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

God Help us all !! F1 that sound like Hair Dryers !! How long before XCats start using Etecs or Verado's ?? This is why the country cant cope with the weather !! Us all interfering with Global Warming. If we all stop recycling and start using proper fuel again etc. then the Planet might warm up a bit, The tide will rise and we can all spend more time boating !!

Nearly a month ago just before returning home i saw an x.cat rigged with 2 brand new optis , just bits needed to be done to complete the rigging .i was told that they could be the next engines to go on , this x.cat is not racing ,it`s a spare boat from one of the races ,so his just gona test it with these 2 optis to see how boat goes . dont know how true this is ,or they could have been winding me up and its just being rigged to have a boat to play with .

[cosworth mirage]

Originally Posted by OCRDA

Could do a better deal if someone is going to Race It !!

Happy to take something in Px !!

Bob

deffinatly going to race it have the phantom 16 ready ,pm me the details of the motor
have a nicely run in cosworth engine to px

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by cosworth mirage

we could all switch to methanol thats environmently friendly and cheap and fast (its a tad firey but at 50p a ltr who cares)

Hydrogen emits water.... methanol? Not so sure a good step:

2 CH3OH + 3 O2 → 2 CO2 + 4 H2O

[cosworth mirage]

i thought methanol was distilled and hydrogen has to be manufactured by the use of electricitly imo .
hydrogen needs to be kept under pressure and probably more expensive although i,ve never brought any but i run my 2 stroke quad on methanol and it goes like s..t and smells nice too

[Scream-it.com]

Originally Posted by cosworth mirage

i thought methanol was distilled and hydrogen has to be manufactured by the use of electricitly imo .
hydrogen needs to be kept under pressure and probably more expensive although i,ve never brought any but i run my 2 stroke quad on methanol and it goes like s..t and smells nice too

It does take electricity but when that electricity is generated using wind or wave energy does it matter? You are right though it is a bit early. But the point is this industry is crammed with old technology and that has to change. Remember Ford never designed his original cars to run on petrol...but from the fruits of the field!