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11-02-2013, 11:44 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Moulds for sale:-
For sale,
31'10" (9.7m) mono moulds. (Hull & Deck)
Steve Baker design hull, non stepped.
Hull & running surface of Phantom raceboat 031 'WARLORD', lengthened from original 30'7" (9.32m) to 31'10" (9.7m), and running surface altered to SB's current thinking to include pad keel etc. (with direct input from SB)
Moulds new in 2008, only one boat taken from tooling. ( Marathon E Class race boat 'Swipewipes' ), class winner of CTC, Marathon E class world speed record holder @ 74.52mph
Excellent rough water hull, with virtually idiot proof predictability.
Offers in excess of £15k invited.
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12-02-2013, 09:25 AM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Quite Near
Occupation: Don't Ask!
Interests: Racing Rubber
Boat name: Comfortably Numb
Boat make: SR9
Engines: Yanmar
Cruising area: Over there
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Quite Near
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Hi Jon
Does this include full rights and is there a royalty to pay to Baker on each boat?
All the best
G
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12-02-2013, 09:27 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Full rights. no royalties to pay.
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16-02-2013, 09:04 AM
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Purely out of interest.
The boat/s produced from the moulds, would you be allowed to call it/them a Phantom 32 ?
Kind regards
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16-02-2013, 12:28 PM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Is that important?
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16-02-2013, 01:16 PM
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Captain slow
Country: england
Location: surrey
Boat name: terminal velocity no.120
Boat make: phantom20
Engines: 2.5efi smillin jack
Cruising area: solent
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Location: surrey
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Ross
Nothing's sacred!
However it would appear that chaos is being a sheep and following his leader,
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16-02-2013, 05:31 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wickedtopspeed
Purely out of interest.
The boat/s produced from the moulds, would you be allowed to call it/them a Phantom 32 ?
Kind regards
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James, I think it would be wrong to label it a Phantom, as it wasn't built by them, and the deck is not a Steve Baker design, only the hull.
We have never called it a Phantom 'product', or claimed it to be one. (I'm referring to the Swipewipes boat).
That's all I can say really.
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17-02-2013, 08:57 AM
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As I said it was purely out of interest.
Awesome boat, I wish anyone well who takes the product forward.
Not enough British brands in the marine industry, and those that are there need all the support we can give them.
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23-03-2013, 08:33 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: engineer
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Boat make: scorpion 8.1
Engines: 250HO
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Is it 24deg constant V like the 28?
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24-03-2013, 09:33 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
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found the answer
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24-03-2013, 10:06 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glen76
Is it 24deg constant V like the 28?
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No, it's not as simple as that.
It's isn't a simple 24 degree deadrise, neither is the 28.
The centre portion of the 28 is 20 degrees (between the second spray rails out), the outer portion is 24 degrees.
It isn't a completely 'constant' deadrise either, it has some warp so the deadrise steepens toward the bows.
The 32 is very similar, but has a bit less warp, and in addition to the 'double deadrise' of the 28 it also has a pad keel between the inner most spray rails (pad being about 15 degree) similar to that of the later P20/P21/P23.
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25-03-2013, 10:32 AM
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Registered User
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I found the build, im intrigued by the pad thats added. Have a plan in my head for something similar. Good luck with sale. She is a lovely product
http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....hlight=warlord
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Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
No, it's not as simple as that.
It's isn't a simple 24 degree deadrise, neither is the 28.
The centre portion of the 28 is 20 degrees (between the second spray rails out), the outer portion is 24 degrees.
It isn't a completely 'constant' deadrise either, it has some warp so the deadrise steepens toward the bows.
The 32 is very similar, but has a bit less warp, and in addition to the 'double deadrise' of the 28 it also has a pad keel between the inner most spray rails (pad being about 15 degree) similar to that of the later P20/P21/P23.
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19-03-2014, 05:30 PM
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Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
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PM Sent
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24-03-2014, 06:06 PM
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Registered User
Occupation: Champion Pie Eater
Boat name: On The Rocks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
James, I think it would be wrong to label it a Phantom, as it wasn't built by them, and the deck is not a Steve Baker design, only the hull.
We have never called it a Phantom 'product', or claimed it to be one. (I'm referring to the Swipewipes boat).
That's all I can say really.
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On the South Coast Poker run entry sheet it's named as a Phantom?
gaZ
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19-06-2014, 07:01 PM
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Registered User
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moulds
is tooling or moulds available to make it into an open deck, ie 5 seater like the p 28?
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