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27-04-2005, 07:24 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Shropshire
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Boat make: Phantom 18
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V8 outboard
Hi guys,
Does anyone know of a Johnson or Evinrude 300 v8 for sale??
It has to be the long shaft [20"] model.
Cheers.
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27-04-2005, 07:30 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
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27-04-2005, 08:51 PM
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The Doc
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is that going on an 18?
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28-04-2005, 05:33 AM
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Registered User
Country: New Zealand
Location: Auckland
Occupation: Construction Manager
Interests: Offshore Powerboat Racing
Boat name: NZ Privateer
Boat make: 29ft Catamaran
Engines: 2 x Mercury 300X
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why the hell do you want to buy one those, the only thing they are good for is as a mooring anchor
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28-04-2005, 07:22 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
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Yeah, but they do make a VERY good mooring anchor!
I have to say tho' i'd quite like one in the garage just to look at, they are a right old monster.
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28-04-2005, 07:30 AM
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Registered User
Country: New Zealand
Location: Auckland
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I owned two of them at one stage, a matched pair of racing engines, ended up with them on a deal on a deal, were bloody hard to get rid of, but we did put them on a 26ft mono for a summer to have a play with, they had the offshore midsections with the big exhausts, made one hell of a noise, suppose they did attract the chicks!
i know where there is one for sale in NZ.
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28-04-2005, 08:10 AM
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Senior Member
Country: England
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Last one I saw being used was on a 23' (I think) Frode mono - cruising round Stockholm.
Looked pretty good for pose value.
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28-04-2005, 08:46 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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There used to be a pale blue P25 in Jersey with a single 300 Rude, like you say, pose value 10/10, but it went through propshafts like they were going out of fasion.
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28-04-2005, 08:53 AM
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Certainly the few boats that raced with them over here were very un-reliable.
Remember the Whitmarsh Stapley cat and a Benito with a pair of them. Maybe some others.
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28-04-2005, 08:55 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Alenbys 'Mariner Magazine' for one...till it went back to quad's
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28-04-2005, 09:10 AM
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Are they just to heavy power/weight ratio or what's "wrong" with them?
I sense some disliking of the V8´s??
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28-04-2005, 03:47 PM
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Location: Poole
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There was a P28 running a pair of these on gil brackets round here everytime she went out a propshaft went. but it sounded & looked the BOLLOX
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28-04-2005, 04:03 PM
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numbskull
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I think the motor itself is supposed to be quite strong, if a little heavy, but the lower unit was never up to performance applications, I think the motor was designed for the large sport-fisher type boat in the US.
I would imagine the massive flywheel effect from a powerhead that big would put a whole lot of stress on the lower when it 'barks' and re-enters.
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28-04-2005, 04:13 PM
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Location: Scotland
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I just happen to have an unused complete lower unit for one of these. So, Stevie Wonder, you know where to come......
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28-04-2005, 04:27 PM
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3.6lts
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28-04-2005, 04:36 PM
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Any one remember Ray Bullman (I think) from Whitstable, many years ago he had a Johnson V8 on a P21 with a very large tubular outrigger, cant remember how well it went but it looked the part.
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28-04-2005, 04:43 PM
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Senior Member
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I thought the design of the engine was pretty much two V4's joined together (probably a little bit more complicated) - but in terms of components it meant they were using a crank / down shaft of similar proportions to the V4 - which then struggled with the extra power.
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28-04-2005, 04:59 PM
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28-04-2005, 05:43 PM
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WOW
What sort of power was that supposed to produce?
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28-04-2005, 05:46 PM
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Dunno, but if I put my greek thinking cap on I can make something up if you like?
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