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21-11-2012, 12:39 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Interests: Boats, engine building, shooting
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 200 carb
Cruising area: Irish Sea
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
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Wanted P20 or P21 or similar
Hi Guys - It's my 1st post!
I'm looking for a 'project' Phantom 21 or similar on a trialer. Anything considered but trailer must be good to travel. I would prefer hull and trailer only as I already have an engine.
Thanks in advance.
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21-11-2012, 12:44 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: southampton
Occupation: H M FORCES
Interests: boats
Boat make: Mk2 Phantom 21, Phantom 21 race deck
Engines: Mercury 2.5 offshore, Mercury xr2
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: southampton
Posts: 467
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Hi mate & welcome to boatmad.
This may still be forsale??
http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....hlight=phantom
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21-11-2012, 01:11 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Interests: Boats, engine building, shooting
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 200 carb
Cruising area: Irish Sea
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
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Thanks Drew
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21-11-2012, 02:18 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: london
Occupation: Powerboat Skipper
Interests: Boats , bikes!
Boat name: Renegade
Boat make: GPV-RENEGADE
Engines: 150 HO etec
Cruising area: Thames, south coast, anywhere!
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: london
Posts: 2,330
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I have a trailer for sale to fit a p20.
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21-11-2012, 04:30 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Builder
Boat make: Various phantoms, sorcerrer 660, Tremlett, Blufin, Tornado
Engines: various 50 - 200hp
Cruising area: Devon
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Devon
Posts: 160
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Quote:
Originally Posted by It's-Never-too-rough
Hi Guys - It's my 1st post!
I'm looking for a 'project' Phantom 21 or similar on a trialer. Anything considered but trailer must be good to travel. I would prefer hull and trailer only as I already have an engine.
Thanks in advance.
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22-11-2012, 11:34 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Interests: Boats, engine building, shooting
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 200 carb
Cruising area: Irish Sea
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
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P21
On my way back to IoM with a 1982 Phantom 21. It has been stripped and painted quite well in 2 pack white. I have a 1997 merc long shaft ready to fit. The plan initially is to rig it rough and ready and see what it does on the choppy irish sea! Next purchase is seats and a prop.....any suggestions? This is my first attempt at anything this fast, old and racey so any and all help greatly appreciated. I'll post photos tomorrow when i'm able.
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24-11-2012, 07:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Interests: Boats, engine building, shooting
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 200 carb
Cruising area: Irish Sea
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
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24-11-2012, 08:53 PM
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Registered User
Country: thornton
Occupation: kitchen supplier and installer
Boat name: roofless
Boat make: phantom/talon 18's/scarab 21,Larson 254 cabrio
Engines: V8
Cruising area: wyre/morcambe bay
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by It's-Never-too-rough
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Was this from blackpool?
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24-11-2012, 09:06 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Interests: Boats, engine building, shooting
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 200 carb
Cruising area: Irish Sea
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
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P21
Yes it is. Do you know it?
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24-11-2012, 09:28 PM
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Registered User
Country: thornton
Occupation: kitchen supplier and installer
Boat name: roofless
Boat make: phantom/talon 18's/scarab 21,Larson 254 cabrio
Engines: V8
Cruising area: wyre/morcambe bay
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by It's-Never-too-rough
Yes it is. Do you know it?
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Was thinking of buying it!
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24-11-2012, 09:41 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Interests: Boats, engine building, shooting
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 200 carb
Cruising area: Irish Sea
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
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Sorry about that!
It's gone to a good home though
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24-11-2012, 10:47 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the rat
Was thinking of buying it!
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Messer !
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25-11-2012, 08:38 AM
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Registered User
Country: thornton
Occupation: kitchen supplier and installer
Boat name: roofless
Boat make: phantom/talon 18's/scarab 21,Larson 254 cabrio
Engines: V8
Cruising area: wyre/morcambe bay
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TWIN RIG
Messer !
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Was thinking of an inboard in it,sick of 2 stroke shite!
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25-11-2012, 10:56 AM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Interests: Boats, engine building, shooting
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 200 carb
Cruising area: Irish Sea
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
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I appreciate your comment but isn't there a lot to be said for a nicely built 2 smoke; lightness, the noise it makes, handling?
This guy did a nice job of an imboard though
http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....hlight=phantom
Is that something like you were thinking of?
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25-11-2012, 12:06 PM
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Registered User
Country: netherlands
Location: uithoorn
Occupation: crane driver
Interests: everthing what s fast
Boat make: p21,32 hustler
Engines: 408 v8 bravo 1x
Cruising area: ijsselmeer
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: uithoorn
Posts: 298
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Quote:
Originally Posted by It's-Never-too-rough
I appreciate your comment but isn't there a lot to be said for a nicely built 2 smoke; lightness, the noise it makes, handling?
This guy did a nice job of an imboard though
http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....hlight=phantom
Is that something like you were thinking of?
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Thx !! I would invight you to come over and experience the noise and handling of the inboard !!
however the 2 smoke and lightness I don t have in it !
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25-11-2012, 12:19 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Interests: Boats, engine building, shooting
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 200 carb
Cruising area: Irish Sea
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bor
Thx !! I would invight you to come over and experience the noise and handling of the inboard !!
however the 2 smoke and lightness I don t have in it !
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Hi Bor, very impressed by your installation, not many people have the skill and determination to undertake such a project. Inspirational.
In my opinion yours doesn't really compare to what most people think of when they convert to inboard, ie usually a standard GM 5.7/alpha 1
Next time I find myself in the Nederlands I'll give you a shout
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25-11-2012, 01:29 PM
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Registered User
Country: netherlands
Location: uithoorn
Occupation: crane driver
Interests: everthing what s fast
Boat make: p21,32 hustler
Engines: 408 v8 bravo 1x
Cruising area: ijsselmeer
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: uithoorn
Posts: 298
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Quote:
Originally Posted by It's-Never-too-rough
Hi Bor, very impressed by your installation, not many people have the skill and determination to undertake such a project. Inspirational.
In my opinion yours doesn't really compare to what most people think of when they convert to inboard, ie usually a standard GM 5.7/alpha 1
Next time I find myself in the Nederlands I'll give you a shout
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Your right about the project ,I wouldn't do it again to be honest but if you say A you have to say B and the only thing to do it is to do it right ,especially if you planning to go this fast !
however if you have a nice original p20 or 21 I think it would run pretty nice whit a 5.7 and alpha or bravo ,my first thoughts where to put in a 6.2 mpi whit bravo but then I came along someone who builds the alluminium ls engines for a living and it got a little out of hands .
but very happy whit the results so far ,have a few points I want to chance but nothing mayor .
Yours looking good also ! what s the plan to but on ?
I reed some other post from you and will give you the advice to go whit the hydraulic steering ! I had a 2.5 on a 20 warrior (ring splash ) and it wasn t steerable WOT !due to the prop tq .
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25-11-2012, 01:52 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Interests: Boats, engine building, shooting
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Mercury 200 carb
Cruising area: Irish Sea
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bor
Yours looking good also ! what s the plan to but on ?
I reed some other post from you and will give you the advice to go whit the hydraulic steering ! I had a 2.5 on a 20 warrior (ring splash ) and it wasn t steerable WOT !due to the prop tq .
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I already had a standard merc 200 which is the reason for buying the P21. This is my first go at a boat of this type so I'm keeping it simple, make my mistakes on this one and then decide if I want to do something more interesting.
Any advice very gratefully received, thanks
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25-11-2012, 01:54 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Portsmouth
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: everything fast
Boat make: Phantom 28/phantom 18
Engines: 2x Mercury 3.0 225 optimax/yamaha 85
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 1,355
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easy to set up if you need any info call me 07702 958175
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25-11-2012, 03:32 PM
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Registered User
Location: north west
Interests: Northern poker runs,without the loosers
Boat name: Daze of thunder
Boat make: fastest recorded outboard phantom
Engines: which one
Cruising area: M6
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: north west
Posts: 263
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Quote:
Originally Posted by It's-Never-too-rough
On my way back to IoM with a 1982 Phantom 21. It has been stripped and painted quite well in 2 pack white. I have a 1997 merc long shaft ready to fit. The plan initially is to rig it rough and ready and see what it does on the choppy irish sea! Next purchase is seats and a prop.....any suggestions? This is my first attempt at anything this fast, old and racey so any and all help greatly appreciated. I'll post photos tomorrow when i'm able.
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i think you find its newer belong to dowdy on here from new then lived round blackpool ,was more like 86/87,with newer hull underneath, i looked after it 87/89,with mariner 200 then mod vp 2.4,will dig out pics if can find them ,
was A team,then no guts no glory,then gunrunner,
ran twin ruide guide with no probs
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