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23-01-2012, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
don't think thats new. its from RB8
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Can ping some examples of Marathon Boats that raced at Cowes last year under the old rule i.e. 1 Sea Survival ticket per boat.
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23-01-2012, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
don't think thats new. its from RB8
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It is new in the context of all craft in All Marathon Races [whatever the length race] having to comply.
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23-01-2012, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin The Talker
It is new in the context of all craft in All Marathon Races [whatever the length race] having to comply.
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Martin, you always leave me confused - Pint in the Local >>
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23-01-2012, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ciao
Martin, you always leave me confused - Pint in the Local >>
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I try not to confuse - so I'll keep quiet !
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24-01-2012, 11:08 AM
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This is new???
Stabilized Monohull – Definition A planning craft with a single,
central main hull that provides the majority of the
hydrodynamic lift (greater than 90%) when proceeding at
planning speed, coupled with two stabilizing sponsors, placed
on each side of the main hull, that provide stability in roll.
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24-01-2012, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Davis
This is new???
Stabilized Monohull – Definition A planning craft with a single,
central main hull that provides the majority of the
hydrodynamic lift (greater than 90%) when proceeding at
planning speed, coupled with two stabilizing sponsors, placed
on each side of the main hull, that provide stability in roll.
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so is that a trimeran, cool cats next
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24-01-2012, 11:56 AM
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26-01-2012, 09:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
This is new???
Stabilized Monohull – Definition A planning craft with a single,
central main hull that provides the majority of the
hydrodynamic lift (greater than 90%) when proceeding at
planning speed, coupled with two stabilizing sponsors, placed
on each side of the main hull, that provide stability in roll.
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I can see possibilities in THAT rule.... Tone !
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26-01-2012, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ring
I can see possibilities in THAT rule.... Tone !
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Exactly!
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26-01-2012, 10:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
This is new???
Stabilized Monohull – Definition A planning craft with a single,
central main hull that provides the majority of the
hydrodynamic lift (greater than 90%) when proceeding at
planning speed, coupled with two stabilizing sponsors, placed
on each side of the main hull, that provide stability in roll.
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i wonder if something will turn up that just happens to fit into that new rule,maybe you have to be in the funny hand shake gang to get a rule changed
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27-01-2012, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
This is new???
Stabilized Monohull – Definition A planning craft with a single,
central main hull that provides the majority of the
hydrodynamic lift (greater than 90%) when proceeding at
planning speed, coupled with two stabilizing sponsors, placed
on each side of the main hull, that provide stability in roll.
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So designs similar to this is allowed?
Will make it interesting...
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27-01-2012, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blind dog
i wonder if something will turn up that just happens to fit into that new rule,maybe you have to be in the funny hand shake gang to get a rule changed
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I suspect the ruling has been made to allow something Blade Runner'ish in, possibly for the RB12 ?
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27-01-2012, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Scand
So designs similar to this is allowed?
Will make it interesting...
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No, that wouldn't fit the rules
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27-01-2012, 12:23 PM
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I did a concept study one a triamaran a few years ago, single engine, with a centre pod carrying most of the hydrodynamic load at steady state planing speed in smooth water. This was designed a café racer and not an offshore race boat.
Just to illustrate that the pickle fork modified catamaran concept will comply with the rules as stated as is essentially a stabilized monohull. I guess the TRM has less than 90% of the hydrodynamic support from the centre pod, probably more like 40-50% so it would not comply, but similar designs could.
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27-01-2012, 01:25 PM
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27-01-2012, 01:30 PM
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I think the intention was for this to allowed:
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27-01-2012, 04:52 PM
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Idiots....
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27-01-2012, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
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Idiots....
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Totally agree, this has to stop before it gets out of hand. one thing is for sure, the Cowes/Monte-Carlo 2013 will only allow "monohulls" as we know them. Tri hulls or any derivitive will NOT be allowed, that's our choice. Any complaints go talk to the UIM.
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27-01-2012, 09:25 PM
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My guess would be that it is to allow for the blow up tubes that Fabio Buzzi uses on some of his designs.
Peter
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28-01-2012, 03:01 PM
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[QUOTE=Mike Lloyd; Any complaints go talk to the UIM.
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Thats a dangerous offer, Mike
You know how persuasive some people are ! ( with the right carrot )
Marathon rules "Cast in stone" ?
Like hell !
Mike
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