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27-05-2014, 02:13 PM
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Registered User
Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Warsaw
Posts: 580
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Building SW-32
Most of you will know this boat as a SwipeWipes 32 but recently moulds have change their home
Would like to show the building progress under the Madness Marine name. Hope it will not be worse than the original boat.
Boat will be bit modified to have 4-5 seat cockpit and twin outboard engines
Will be build as a race/pleasure boat.
I would also like to thanks Mr. Jon F for his hospitality and helping me out with everything in UK. Cheers Jon
Some pics of moulds arriving in Warsaw
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27-05-2014, 04:00 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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New home / builder
Mike, glad it's all home safe & sound in Poland.
Looking forward to the build thread :-)
JF
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28-05-2014, 04:49 PM
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Registered User
Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
Boat name: none
Boat make: PetterTintorera
Engines: Yamaha 90
Cruising area: West Coast of Norway
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Coast of Norway
Posts: 888
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Congratulations!
Are you sticking a plant in the mould for some steps or are you sticking with the original strait hull?
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29-05-2014, 01:22 PM
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Registered User
Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Warsaw
Posts: 580
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I'm thinking about steps...
On one hand it should be faster on calm water
On the other hand if I will make mistake with designing steps ( their hight, angle and lenght, and their position on the boat ) it could be worse then original hull
But first things first - I have to clean and polish those moulds
They are in really good shape but they where sitting outside for some time
Hope to start doing it at weekend
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29-05-2014, 01:42 PM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Good luck! What motors are you thinking of? The V8 Yanmars at 370hp each would make it go well!
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29-05-2014, 01:55 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Thorpe Bay
Occupation: IT Director, www.lighthouseit.co.uk
Interests: Boats, Surfing & Snowboarding
Boat name: Isabella / Cool Runnings II / Bella / Sea Pup / Sea Dog / Speedy II / Bernico F3
Boat make: Colvic 35 Suncruiser / Bernico F3 / Phantom 16 / Zodiac 420 YL / RIB / Apollo 9
Engines: 2 x Perkins Sabre 225ti / Mercury Pro XS /Mercury Pro XS 115/ Tohatsu 2.5 / Mercury 25 / Mercury 50
Cruising area: Thames Estuary / River Crouch / Salcombe
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Location: Thorpe Bay
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Will it take two of these?
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29-05-2014, 04:55 PM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silversurfer
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At over 500 hp each it would only need one to go a reasonable pace, two would be preferable for the petrol heads on here (that would be everyone?).
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29-05-2014, 06:36 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: lee on solent
Interests: skydiving powerboats
Engines: tower power lover
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: lee on solent
Posts: 91
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$£$£$"
at $270,000 for a triple set up,, a bargin :o)
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29-05-2014, 08:22 PM
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Registered User
Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
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For that money I would get a twin 1350 propably. Still would be fun to run with twin 557 set up. Could be pretty fast
Still want to get outboard power.
I think that they are more reliable with less maintance than I/B. Offcourse I'm not talking about 2,5 litre racing mercs or XR2's
Propably twin yamaha F250's and light set up. Light / Heavy enough to meet marathon D class rules if I would get possibility to race in this boat some day :-)
Maybe modern mercs 300's or verados 350's, maybe Etec 300's but time will tell.
Cookee, diesels are quite expensive here and cost of fuel starts to be little higher than petrol So no point for me to get diesels :-(
Was talking to Jon and he said that his Steyr's takes about 63 litre per hour at WOT. Yamaha F250 takes around 70-75 litres per hour. So the difference isn't that big. Also if it comes to power to weight ratio, outboards have some advantage
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30-05-2014, 07:56 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_G
Propably twin yamaha F250's and light set up. Light / Heavy enough to meet marathon D class rules if I would get possibility to race in this boat some day :-)
Maybe modern mercs 300's or verados 350's, maybe Etec 300's but time will tell.
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Not sure about the 300's but the 'Rude's seem to have saddle issues when pushed harder, I'm sure some fans will come along and tell me I'm talking rubbish any minute!
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30-05-2014, 09:08 AM
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Registered User
Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Not sure about the 300's but the 'Rude's seem to have saddle issues when pushed harder, I'm sure some fans will come along and tell me I'm talking rubbish any minute!
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I've heard about it. Worse thing in Etec are still their ECU's in my opinion
When it come to Yamaha I have threated hard my 200 ProV and modern F200 (with solid motor mounts on F200) and didn't have any single problem with them
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30-05-2014, 12:58 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: Aug 2009
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The Evinrude powerheads and electronics are exceptional, but the saddles and mounting hardware does need some work to take the abuse of offshore racing... It's not too tough to do, and solid mounts are available for the big block V6s
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31-05-2014, 04:10 PM
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Registered User
Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
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Bit of washing, bit of polishing....
Starts to look like a boat mould :-)
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31-05-2014, 07:10 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey Channel Isles
Location: West Coast
Occupation: Hotelier
Interests: Powerboat racing
Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
Engines: Volvo 5 litre,Merc 115 Tower,Twin 250 Suzukis and 145 Mercruiser LX
Cruising area: Channel Islands and French coast
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Wax on,wax off !
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01-06-2014, 07:19 PM
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Country: Sweden
Location: Stockholm
Occupation: Delta powerboats, Dahl Naval.
Interests: Boats, Cars, boats and boats
Boat make: Frodé 23R
Engines: Mercury 200XS
Cruising area: Lake Mälaren
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Twin 300XS and you are good to go
Looking forward to this build, keep the pics coming!
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07-06-2014, 02:22 PM
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Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
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Cleaned 3 times
Polished 2 times
Looks great.
Offcourse as you can see there is a lot of white stuff coming from the trees but still looks great
Waxing starts monday. 7 or 8 times
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09-06-2014, 08:39 PM
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Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
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Wax On, Wax Off
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10-06-2014, 08:54 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Looking good.
Hope the cleaning up wasn't too bad Mike
Jon
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10-06-2014, 10:57 AM
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Location: devon
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: devon
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Still got a box of patterns for the deck if they are any use to you.
Not sure what happened to the ones for the hull unless Fuller had them.
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10-06-2014, 12:22 PM
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Registered User
Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
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Jon, cleaning wasn't that bad. I thought that I will have to use sandpaper with water after these 6 years but finally I manage to do everything with water and polishing paste. Its now back in mirror like condition :-)
Kitten, thanks but I will start laminating it in August ( will not have much time before ) so I will make those patterns again. Thanks anyway.
At the moments I'm cleaning moulds, polishing them and waxing 3 or 4 times.
I'm also ordering every bits I need to laminate it and make structural reinforcements.
I have to wait for some bits for 6-7 weeks from day of order
I will have another laminator after 15th of August who will help me with it and than I want to start building it. Also I will have place in bigger hall after 15th. My garage is quite big but not big enough for that boat.
Don't want to laminate something than leave it than laminate another thing etc. I want to do it in one process.
Of course I will cover the moulds after those 4 layers of wax and I will put another 4 layers right before laminating in August
Mike
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