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10-02-2006, 04:42 PM
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Country: Norway
Occupation: Electrician, High Voltage
Interests: Boats, dirtbikes
Boat make: Hydrolift T20
Engines: Mercury 2.5EFi 260
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Phantom bow tank, anyone got pictures of it?
Hey Guys!
-New member here, or have been for a hvile without posting much as you see..
But enough of that, while reading a tread in the marketplace-section, I stumbled upon a add that had for sale a Phantom-bow tank-anyone of you got pictures of this? And the solution used for the boat around it(the glass-work/construction of the boat).
You see, I`m redoing my Hydrolift T20, it`s going to get an all new divinycell solution istead of Plywood(Rotten-plywood that was..)
Everything is going out of it in terms of Transom, braces everything..you name it!
I`m currently in the process of glassing in the new transom after spending a couple of month`s with a grinder in my hands, cutting and "sanding" out the old crap, to get good contact with the new glass/divinycell...
And for the bow-tank I was playing with the idea of getting one welded in stainless instead of glassing a new one.
The old ballast-tank ruptured twice during a little inspirated driving this summer...
You don`t feel too smart when there suddenly is about 100 litres of water on you feet while driving.
The main thing I am curious about is:How is this to attach to the boat? Will it start to Loosen up after a while and start wondering about and start smahing the boat? (if you know what I mean here..My English is abit of due to the fact I`m from Norway..So bear with me)
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10-02-2006, 04:51 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Surrey
Occupation: Subsea Design Engineer
Boat name: The Mutz Nuts/Beyond Obsession/HoneyRider
Boat make: Phantom 20, Phantom 25, Cigarette 39 TopGun Unlimited
Engines: Mercury Promax 300 Madefi, Twin Mercury 200XS, Twin Merc Racing 525 EFI's
Cruising area: Eastney/Portsmouth
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Location: Surrey
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We have a Bowtank but it has a loose baffle inside so that will need to be removed or welded back on , pic attached
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10-02-2006, 04:53 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: dorset
Interests: wasting money on boats
Boat name: aquilla .
Boat make: Superhawk 40. Ring 21E. Seadoo gtx. Windy Khamsin
Engines: Kad 300s. 300xs Dbr .d6 370 230 4tec
Cruising area: corfu
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: dorset
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nice boat
what sort of speed do you get out of it,
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10-02-2006, 05:25 PM
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Registered User
Country: Norway
Occupation: Electrician, High Voltage
Interests: Boats, dirtbikes
Boat make: Hydrolift T20
Engines: Mercury 2.5EFi 260
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Quote:
Originally posted by TheMutzNuts
We have a Bowtank but it has a loose baffle inside so that will need to be removed or welded back on , pic attached
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Hey there!
Thanks for the quick reply! And for the picture, but you wouldn`t happen to have a picture of one in the boat as well would you?
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10-02-2006, 05:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: Norway
Occupation: Electrician, High Voltage
Interests: Boats, dirtbikes
Boat make: Hydrolift T20
Engines: Mercury 2.5EFi 260
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: nice boat
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Originally posted by Rockey
what sort of speed do you get out of it,
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Hi Rockey!
It should do something in the area of 70-80Knots, but since the 2.5EFi needed a rebuild, it has not performed quite as well as I would like..And I have not gotten a accurate reading, since I have not bought a GPS yet(first powerboat-bought it this summer)
The EFi is under a total rebuild now...Top-pinned pistons, gold-rings, everything lightened/ballanced , new rods, all bearings, reeds, Ecu, injectors and so on...
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10-02-2006, 05:35 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Surrey
Occupation: Subsea Design Engineer
Boat name: The Mutz Nuts/Beyond Obsession/HoneyRider
Boat make: Phantom 20, Phantom 25, Cigarette 39 TopGun Unlimited
Engines: Mercury Promax 300 Madefi, Twin Mercury 200XS, Twin Merc Racing 525 EFI's
Cruising area: Eastney/Portsmouth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Surrey
Posts: 757
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Quote:
Originally posted by HydroT20
Hey there!
Thanks for the quick reply! And for the picture, but you wouldn`t happen to have a picture of one in the boat as well would you?
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This is the only 1 i have at the moment
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10-02-2006, 05:45 PM
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Registered User
Country: Norway
Occupation: Electrician, High Voltage
Interests: Boats, dirtbikes
Boat make: Hydrolift T20
Engines: Mercury 2.5EFi 260
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Thanks!
If anyone got a better-one, from a little more distance-bring em on!
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10-02-2006, 06:30 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: dorset
Interests: wasting money on boats
Boat name: aquilla .
Boat make: Superhawk 40. Ring 21E. Seadoo gtx. Windy Khamsin
Engines: Kad 300s. 300xs Dbr .d6 370 230 4tec
Cruising area: corfu
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: dorset
Posts: 570
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Re: Re: nice boat
[QUOTE] Originally posted by HydroT20
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The EFi is under a total rebuild now...Top-pinned pistons, gold-rings, everything lightened/ballanced , new rods, all bearings, reeds, Ecu, injectors and so on... [/
how old is the motor ? what sort of power are you expeting
to get from the engine who's doing the rebulid sorry about all the
questions just intrested
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10-02-2006, 07:37 PM
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Country: england
Location: the grim north
Occupation: robot
Cruising area: tyne
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here mine in the 21.
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10-02-2006, 07:40 PM
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you can,t really see it but the front goes into a bit moulded th the hull. and the strap at the back runs under that angle that is bolted to the floor. is this how they came from phantom ?
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10-02-2006, 08:00 PM
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Registered User
Country: Norway
Occupation: Electrician, High Voltage
Interests: Boats, dirtbikes
Boat make: Hydrolift T20
Engines: Mercury 2.5EFi 260
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Wow! thanks guys!
A bit more response than I`m used to, great picture by the way...
I see that my Hydrolift has a different solution on the tank and braces...The Phantom has some huge ones in the deck also I see..Hmmm? makes me think that I should consider this on mine as well..
On my boat the braces in the hull goes as far as possible and the tank is glassed in between them, thous creating a triangle-shaped tank via the hull and the straight "roof" of the tank going across between the braces, if you guys understand me..?
I belive that this also helps stiffening the construction of the hull...
I`m using 20mm divinycell 80Kg/m3 all the way+CSM of different kinds for this, so it should be pretty sturdy...
So as you see I`m abit worried that if I go away from the original design of the hull, I may in fact weaken it by putting in a all-stainless tank instead -agree?, pluss it would also create alot of glass-work , that soultion also, so why not just glass in a new version of the old tank..
If you want to see more of the boat and the project you can just go in here:
http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...ad.php?t=99432
As for the engine:
The engine is a 94/95 2.5EFi 260.
I`m going to perform a standard rebuild, and just have the heads cut to 33/34CC (Hoping for 140+psi)
Have not got the money for a mad-efi or svs/pcu during this winter as I`m both doing the boat and the engine...Doing the work myself, with the manual and consulting myself with some F1-guys over here and with the help of the Scream and fly-forum(where Jay Smith from JSRE has helped me alot with tips already...Thankful for that!)
Have see the inside of alot of other "high-performance engines" over the years so I think I will get it right(I hope)
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10-02-2006, 09:13 PM
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Country: UK
Location: Weston Super Mare
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10-02-2006, 09:48 PM
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Registered User
Country: Norway
Occupation: Electrician, High Voltage
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Boat make: Hydrolift T20
Engines: Mercury 2.5EFi 260
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Hi there Burty!
Thank for the link!
Got them pictures already just after you posted them(months ago!)...pretty cool!
You are lucky to be able to be bolting one of Jay`s engines to your boat!! for sure!
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