Anyone fancy a scrap?

[Matt]

MMm. So they don't like the fact that you are defending yourself, but are happy to go on berating you without being in full posession of the facts. And when are given the facts, are in denial about them.

They'ev been smoking too much dried fish shit.

[Matt]

I thought OSO were very adult about it - ie some people got the wrong gist of it, but generally, once explained, people were chilled. This lot though are something else.

[Jon Fuller]

You should see it now!

[Matt]

I've been "monitoring" it.
And saving regular copies.

[Jon Fuller]

here we go, the newest member of that forum is 'Starflite X'

[Matt]

[Jon Fuller]

Originally posted by Matt

Ben Mazur

[Matt]

Go Ben!!

[Jon Fuller]

Originally posted by Matt
Go Ben!!

I think he's probably wise to steer clear of this one, they're not all that receptive

[Matt]

Yeh, they appear particularly closed minded.

[Matt]

I can track the referral urls on all of the sites hosted on my server.

Originally posted by Rogue Wave
Just what sort of search query (operative word I suspect) did you enter when you stumbled accros this site!

[wasonlydoing10knts!]

New on here, but got to ask - what the feck is a stinkpot?

Have seen the vid and did wince at the passes, but lots of things are dangerous, like letting inbred rednecks have guns, for instance.

[Jono]

Originally posted by wasonlydoing10knts! ..... what the feck is a stinkpot?

Piece of old pig iron,, normally powered by coal.. you can tell 'em a mile off 'cause of the pall of black smoke hanging around as they make their asthmatic progress along the water.....

[wasonlydoing10knts!]

I see, although progress can't be that slow or our American friends wouldn't be getting so excited!

To add the 5% with a passport thing, my history teacher said "you can tell all you need to know about America by the fact that it was founded by people who we threw out for being religious fanatics at a time when we were still burning witches". Looks like they'd burn Mr Fuller, although presumably they wouldn't use diesel to get the fire going!

[Ben]

Originally posted by BluFin
Well I will repeat what I said before

what do you expect from a place where less than 5% of the population hold a passport

According to a study done by the Canada Tourism Commission in 2005, 34% of Americans over 18 hold a passport.

In comparison, 72% of Britains hold passports but less than 1/3 of them ever venture farther than Spain.

As for getting involved arguing with the latest nedneck rants - no thanks. Guess I'll have to re-educate them one by one when we get there. Virginia is next to North Carolina after all.

[daren]

Seems that Mint Credit Cards have got the yanks summed up,

Not my opinion of course...

[BluFin]

From The North Carolina Waterman Message Board That Ranted yesterday
Fact!!!
BoatMad Members Killed This Week (0)
Waterman & Fishermen From their area (8 or 9 lost count halfway through)
So looking at the facts & the numbers they are far more dangerous than what they allege from the Vid



A fisherman died and two shipmates were rescued clinging to an overturned life raft yesterday after their 58-foot scallop boat capsized and broke up in rough, frigid seas while entering Chincoteague Inlet near the northern tip of Virginia's Eastern Shore. Farther south, off Wrightsville Beach, N.C., a tugboat crewman died and two others remained missing after their vessel sank during an attempt to rescue a man overboard. The sinkings and deaths were only the latest in a series in area waters during a week of harsh winter weather. The scallop boat Capt. Zach, based in Wanchese, N.C., was one of a large number of vessels plying the shallow waters off the Eastern Shore, capitalizing on sky-high scallop prices, Coast Guard Lt. j.g. Brian Sullivan said. Scallop boats typically stay out for days on end, and boats from distant harbors often put in at Chincoteague to unload their catches and pick up supplies. In the darkness around 6 a.m., the Coast Guard received a signal from the Capt. Zach's EPIRB, an emergency radio beacon activated by immersion in water, that identified the stricken vessel's identity and location, Sullivan said. At the time, the wind was blowing at 20 to 25 knots, building seas of 6 to 8 feet, with some as high as 12 feet, Sullivan said. Currents at the channel entrance would have made conditions there rougher still. The water temperature was 41 degrees. The Coast Guard dispatched a motor lifeboat from its nearby station in Chincoteague, an H-60 Jayhawk helicopter from Atlantic City, N.J., and searchers on foot to comb the shore near the inlet. The Virginia Marine Resources Commission sent out a search crew as well. Soon pieces of the wooden Capt. Zach began washing ashore, Sullivan said, and around 8:30 a.m. searchers on the beach spotted two fishermen clinging to an overturned life raft in the breakers about 200 yards offshore. The fishermen, John Staton, 43, and Charlie Tosto, 50, were hypothermic but alive, and were rushed to a hospital in Salisbury, Md. The Capt. Zach carried survival suits but the fishermen had had no time to get into them, Sullivan said. Men their age wearing normal clothing typically can survive slightly longer than two hours in such cold water, he said, and Staton and Tosto were right at that limit. The men told rescuers that a third man, Ted Daniels of Washington County, N.C., had been aboard the Capt. Zach. The search continued until his body was found on the beach at Assateague Island at 11:40 a.m. Coast Guard officials said they had not determined what caused the Capt. Zach to capsize. The tugboat crisis off Wrightsville Beach began unfolding around 11:30 p.m. Tuesday, the Coast Guard said, when a crew member fell overboard in high seas as the tug towed a barge. The tug released the barge and stopped to try to save the man in the water, and the waves soon swamped the tug and sank it. One crew member was confirmed dead and two others were missing, one of them having apparently gone down with the vessel. The Coast Guard could provide no further particulars yesterday. On Monday, a crab fisherman apparently fell out of his boat in the Pamlico River in North Carolina and remains missing. The Coast Guard found the man's 21-foot fishing boat running in circles, empty. On Saturday, a 53-year-old Suffolk man and his two sons, ages 8 and 14, lost their lives in the James River near Surry after their 23-foot fishing boat, the Reel Naughty, apparently capsized during another period of high winds. In the early morning hours of last Wednesday, a tugboat crewman fell overboard in the lower Chesapeake Bay and disappeared. The Coast Guard searched by air and sea but found no trace of him.

[BluFin]

Any loss of life at sea is very sad. This was a RBL
Who pushes up whos premium.

[lain]

Originally Posted by Matt

MMm. So they don't like the fact that you are defending yourself, but are happy to go on berating you without being in full posession of the facts. And when are given the facts, are in denial about them.

They'ev been smoking too much dried fish shit.

It's a natural phenomenon. I live off advertising on the web and have read robert cialdini's book "influence the art of persuasion" as a result.

It starts by highlighting how simple other creatures are. Stating an experiment.

A turkey will only protect and feed it's chick while it cheeps. If it stops cheeping the parent will disown it and shove it out the nest.

While it's cheeping it's fine.

A bobcat is the turkeys enemy because it eats their chicks.

So the experimenters got a stuffed bobcat and inserted a tape within it, with the noise of a chick cheeping playing and pushed it towards the turkey.

Not only did the turkey not react to it's sworn enemy but pulled the bobcat under it's wing. The mothering instinct clicked in.

Robert cialdini called this a "click whirr" reaction

Once the bobcats tape ran out the turkey instantly attacked it.

Dumb turkey you might think, but then Cialdini goes onto explain our "click whirr" responses and this follow the pack thing is one of them, as dumb as is it.

I'm not condoning the dumb arse sheep mentality, just trying to fill in half an hour before I have me dinner

[Tony Davis]

Originally Posted by lain

lity, just trying to fill in half an hour before I have me dinner

Turkey for dinner?