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23-05-2010, 06:39 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Embarrassment factor 10
Spent saturday giving me boat a clean (never knew it was white) and whilst taking one of my many coffee breaks, that gormless but likeable fool David Graham Smith drives up and gets out for a chat.
"anyone going to the sportsboat show" he says, "Mike Lloyd is there with Mike Ring, those are the most dangerous hulls ever built" he tells us!!!!
He then see's me sitting there, and starts the "well, what i means is, they are quick but tricky to drive, erm, uh, better go", get's back in his car very red faced and goes!
I say to the others, "a bloke who has a legendary HTM, has the cheek to criticise other Hulls!!!!"
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23-05-2010, 07:07 PM
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blind dog
Country: uk
Location: fast land
Occupation: going fast
Interests: fast
Boat name: drivers dry berthing
Boat make: buzzi
Cruising area: anywhere fast
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: fast land
Posts: 828
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dgs
what he ment was ,when he is at the helm
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23-05-2010, 07:52 PM
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Have i got this right Tony, this "red faced Baboons ass HTM Owner" says that the Spectre 30 is one of the worst hulls ever built?
Based on what?
I know they have a tendency to get dirty and be under utilised, but that dont make em bad, does it?
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23-05-2010, 08:17 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Holmes
says that the Spectre 30 is one of the worst hulls ever built?
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No, the Ring hull.
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23-05-2010, 08:54 PM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,291
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dont knock them HTMs, they are the only amphibious cat i've ever seen. They can climb up onto pontoon at drivers with ease
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23-05-2010, 09:51 PM
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Registered User
Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
Boat name: none
Boat make: PetterTintorera
Engines: Yamaha 90
Cruising area: West Coast of Norway
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Coast of Norway
Posts: 888
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I almost bought a HTM once, but was saved by an engine failure on the sea trial. I was young and stupid then. Well I still have my stupidity.
Didn’t the HTM builder, Steve Coulombe, sadly die driving one of his own creations?
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23-05-2010, 09:53 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scand
Didn’t the HTM builder, Steve Coulombe, sadly die driving one of his own creations?
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Yeah, it was the new, larger one I think. 3 peeps killed I think in that accident.
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23-05-2010, 11:20 PM
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Registered User
Country: US
Location: Virginia
Interests: Quiet desperation
Boat name: A Little Noisy
Boat make: Excalibur 24
Engines: Express Racing 525
Cruising area: Mobjack Bay (where?)
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,974
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Yeah, it was the new, larger one I think. 3 peeps killed I think in that accident.
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Sadly, four were killed. The boat was the then new 30 footer.
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24-05-2010, 04:14 AM
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living the dream
Country: Fl. USA
Location: Where the sun never dies
Occupation: Life Artist
Interests: BOAT RACING
Boat name: i call her baby
Boat make: Aero-tek
Engines: a lot of horses
Cruising area: WW
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Where the sun never dies
Posts: 453
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
Sadly, four were killed. The boat was the then new 30 footer.
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WOW,,sad in deed...RIP !!!
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24-05-2010, 10:37 AM
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Moderator
Country: England
Location: Cornwall.
Occupation: Retired.
Interests: Golf & liquid lunches with friends.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Cornwall.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
Spent saturday giving me boat a clean (never knew it was white) and whilst taking one of my many coffee breaks, that gormless but likeable fool David Graham Smith drives up and gets out for a chat.
"anyone going to the sportsboat show" he says, "Mike Lloyd is there with Mike Ring, those are the most dangerous hulls ever built" he tells us!!!!
He then see's me sitting there, and starts the "well, what i means is, they are quick but tricky to drive, erm, uh, better go", get's back in his car very red faced and goes!
I say to the others, "a bloke who has a legendary HTM, has the cheek to criticise other Hulls!!!!"
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In his defence, I have known DGS since 1979 and raced against him from 1980 onwards for over ten years so I know full well what he is like but he has always remained a good loyal friend – particularly recently. Like all of us he has his faults (many) - who hasn't? He is a huge supporter of offshore racing as his “David’s Diary” film account of the RB08 shows (here on Boatmad) and loves everything to do with powerboats.
Having said all that, I was aware of his views on the Ring and have never been able to find out where he got his misconceptions from (apart from him being beaten by Mike in the London to Brighton race of 1991) and was determined to show him, one way or another, that he was wrong. Arguing over a pint in the bar never gets you anywhere, you need to get out there on the water and prove your point.
Mike and Andy took him for a spin down Southampton water in the Ring Ranger on Saturday and apart from Andy scaring the hell out of David’s Lady by throwing the Ranger into a tight turn (she wasn’t prepared for the lean as she was used to the HTM cat which doesn’t of course, lean that is) David and his Lady ended up by being huge enthusiasts and now want a longer run before buying one! So round the Island here we come.
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24-05-2010, 11:35 AM
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timtap
Country: England
Location: Paignton Devon
Occupation: Ex Marine Engineer , Licencee
Interests: Photography, Real Ale .
Boat name: Shooters Too
Boat make: Scarab 22SC
Engines: Mercruiser 270hp
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Paignton Devon
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Out of Pure interest , What was that 'Penthouse' boat the Graham-Smiths had in the early 80s with the Lancing RSJ hanging out of the back ?
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24-05-2010, 12:22 PM
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Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timtap
Out of Pure interest , What was that 'Penthouse' boat the Graham-Smiths had in the early 80s with the Lancing RSJ hanging out of the back ?
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I could be wrong but I think that was a Hunton 23 which was eventually sold to Bob Horwood on the IOW who then continued to race it in Cruiser Class.
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24-05-2010, 02:45 PM
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Registered User
Country: US
Location: Virginia
Interests: Quiet desperation
Boat name: A Little Noisy
Boat make: Excalibur 24
Engines: Express Racing 525
Cruising area: Mobjack Bay (where?)
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Virginia
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Sorry to disagree Mike but I think you will find it was an Allround GTX.
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24-05-2010, 04:47 PM
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Senior Member
Country: ingland
Location: rinng faktery
Occupation: lanimayter
Boat name: rinng peas
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[QUOTE=OldMan;181730] I was aware of his views on the Ring and have never been able to find out where he got his misconceptions from [QUOTE]
jony 'the wakks' fuler towld im dat
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24-05-2010, 05:05 PM
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Trade Member
Country: England
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Boatbuilder / Design
Interests: Anything powered on wheels, water or air
Boat name: OVERLORD
Boat make: RING 34' SPORTSBOAT 2 X V8 PETROL
Engines: 2 x 320 MERCRUISER B1
Cruising area: South coast
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Location: West Sussex
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[QUOTE=The gArfish;181757][QUOTE=OldMan;181730] I was aware of his views on the Ring and have never been able to find out where he got his misconceptions from
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jony 'the wakks' fuler towld im dat
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....and there was I inviting Ginge down to ours to see the 34 and feed him up on chocolate biscuits...
I AM SHOCKED AND DISMAYED !!!!!!
Mike
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24-05-2010, 10:13 PM
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The Doc
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i bet you are!
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25-05-2010, 12:23 AM
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Trade Member
Country: England
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Boatbuilder / Design
Interests: Anything powered on wheels, water or air
Boat name: OVERLORD
Boat make: RING 34' SPORTSBOAT 2 X V8 PETROL
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Quote:
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i bet you are!
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'KIN RIGHT, Chaos !
Mike
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25-05-2010, 07:28 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
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Kinnell, I thought gArf had passed away!
You got parole then?
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26-05-2010, 06:22 PM
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Senior Member
Country: ingland
Location: rinng faktery
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Boat name: rinng peas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
You got parole then?
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downt bee a twatt yew twatt
i av bin werkin forr dat rm. rinng bildin a bote forr a nobbur wiv mor munny thann sence
hee keaps mee werkin 18 howers a daiy forr £4.90 pir hower les deedukshuns laminaytin de fiberglas. akshully we runn owt ovfiberglas sum tyme agoo an av bin yewsin bi aksial bogg rowl (andrekks) an shutterin pli
fuk mee. wan bigg waiv an de croo wil be swimmin wiv de fishis. sirves de bastuds rite i fink
gaRf
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26-05-2010, 09:44 PM
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Trade Member
Country: England
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Boatbuilder / Design
Interests: Anything powered on wheels, water or air
Boat name: OVERLORD
Boat make: RING 34' SPORTSBOAT 2 X V8 PETROL
Engines: 2 x 320 MERCRUISER B1
Cruising area: South coast
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: West Sussex
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The gArfish
downt bee a twatt yew twatt
i av bin werkin forr dat rm. rinng bildin a bote forr a nobbur wiv mor munny thann sence
hee keaps mee werkin 18 howers a daiy forr £4.90 pir hower les deedukshuns laminaytin de fiberglas. akshully we runn owt ovfiberglas sum tyme agoo an av bin yewsin bi aksial bogg rowl (andrekks) an shutterin pli
fuk mee. wan bigg waiv an de croo wil be swimmin wiv de fishis. sirves de bastuds rite i fink
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Caw bly mi Garfyshe.
It mustuv bin dat boyte wot yoo bilt that nyce mista Grayimsniff woz in wot got skayerd ! Wee musst poot mowar quilted Andriks der neckst wun !
myke rynge
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