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Old 17-02-2009, 08:37 AM   #1
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Is this a true story??...

...over to you Blufin....

"The brand spanking new Airbus 340-600, the largest passenger airplane ever built, sat in its hangar in Toulouse, France without a single hour of airtime.
Enter the Arab flight crew of Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies (ADAT) to conduct pre-delivery tests on the ground, such as engine run-ups, prior to delivery to Etihad Airways in Abu Dhabi.

The ADAT crew taxied the A340-600 to the run-up area. Then they took all four engines to takeoff power with a virtually empty aircraft. Not having read the run-up manuals, they had no clue just how light an empty A340-600 really is.

The takeoff warning horn was blaring away in the cockpit because they had all 4 engines at full power. The aircraft computers thought they were trying to take off but the aircraft had not been configured properly (flaps/slats, etc.) Then one of the ADAT crew decided to pull the circuit breaker on the Ground Proximity Sensor to silence the alarm.

This fooled the aircraft into thinking it was in the air.

The computers automatically released all the brakes and set the aircraft rocketing forward. The ADAT crew had no idea that this is a safety feature so that pilots can't land with the brakes on.

Not one member of the seven-man Arab crew was bright enough to throttle back the engines from their max power setting, so the $200 million brand-new aircraft crashed into a blast barrier, totaling it.

The extent of injuries to the crew is unknown for there has been a news blackout in the major media in France and elsewhere. Coverage of the story was deemed insulting to Muslim Arabs. Finally, the photos are starting to leak out."
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Old 17-02-2009, 09:10 AM   #2
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You kind of expect this kind of story to be on the world news.

Some guys put it on you tube
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Old 17-02-2009, 09:36 AM   #3
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You kind of expect this kind of story to be on the world news.

Some guys put it on you tube
Thats got to be the last thing you want to see when waiting to takeoff
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Old 17-02-2009, 09:41 AM   #4
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True... Other thing was the motors kept running.

Throttle isn't connected to anything so moving it back to idle dont do fek all except give a comfort feeling, all run by puters & demand inputs, modes ect. Hence the caution on the things be careful what you isolate
If you recall the Airbus display crash when it went it. pilot hit the disconnect and firwalled the throttles and pulled back. But the beastie was in land mode so it did. didnt know there wasnt a runway there.

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Old 17-02-2009, 10:40 AM   #5
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The A340 isn't the largest aircraft built i thought it was A380
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Old 17-02-2009, 11:13 AM   #6
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Maybe this is a lesson in not fully automating things without having a big red button with 'manual override' on it?

Yes, the crew fouled up-but to have mechanisms in place that make the foulup unfixable can't be good?
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The A340 isn't the largest aircraft built i thought it was A380

I believe it claims to be "the longest Airbus airliner in operation"
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Old 17-02-2009, 11:19 AM   #8
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Maybe this is a lesson in not fully automating things without having a big red button with 'manual override' on it?

Yes, the crew fouled up-but to have mechanisms in place that make the foulup unfixable can't be good?
True, but we're not talking about operating a lawnmower! To think someone could be in control of that, without having learned all that needs knowing before turning the key is frightening.
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True, but we're not talking about operating a lawnmower! To think someone could be in control of that, without having learned all that needs knowing before turning the key is frightening.
I agree-but to not design something with as big a potential casualty figure as an aircraft with the 'shit happens-so lets make it the easiest to deal with when it does' attitude in mind is scary.
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Kinda. But pulling the circuit breaker, therefore making a conscious decision to override the system isn't shit happing, it's dip shit. I bet it's not one of the aircrafts SOP's that they were running through.

Now if the circuit breaker had popped because of a failure, which left them controlless, that woulda been shitter design - but not terminally so.
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Old 17-02-2009, 02:43 PM   #11
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On a separate note, I don't understand the part about concearns that it would insult the Arab Muslims if it were public (assuming the story is true).
What happened there is about ill informed idiots, not race, or religious bollox.

Unless of course they have a guilty conscience that they think Arab Muslims are all thicko's.
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On a separate note, I don't understand the part about concearns that it would insult the Arab Muslims if it were public (assuming the story is true).
What happened there is about ill informed idiots, not race, or religious bollox.

Unless of course they have a guilty conscience that they think Arab Muslims are all thicko's.
In my experience of living in the Middle East, the Arabs will always remain blameless and no media would dare report anything bad about Arabs regardless of whether its true or not.

You will not come across a duller media than in the Middle East.

My real experience is that they are as thick as pig shit and with wealth a real danger to the rest of the world.

For all the rucksack carrying Ragheads out there, this is only my opinion based on previous and current experiences of dealing with your people in the Middle East.
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More here: http://www.cargolaw.com/2007nightmare_a-340.html

(Cargolaw has lots of interesting stuff about plane and shop losses. Website is a bit crap as is the annoying background music but its worth looking at.)

EDIT: It did make the BBC News at the time: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7098547.stm
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