Clean Burn Engines

Wayne Kerr · 05-12-2005, 08:48 PM

Lads;
I have heard that the rules now state you must run Clean Burn Engins, whats the FULL details?

Dangerous · 05-12-2005, 10:05 PM

Only for f3 up to 150hp i beleive

Wacky Racer · 05-12-2005, 10:09 PM

Still under review for F3, brought up at the forum, not every one can afford a clean burn engine, how are we going to get people into our sport if they have got to buy a new opti etc, the rule was (prior to the forum) up to 150 Hp, no mention of DFI engines etc, have to see what they come up with !!!!!!!!!!!

Dangerous · 05-12-2005, 10:13 PM

Wacky do you know when this is going to be decided ? Also, do you know how heavy Dereks p20 is , and how fast it runs with the 150 on it?

Wacky Racer · 05-12-2005, 10:23 PM

Will talk to Derek tomorrow should be able to let you know tomorrow, Got a chap in our club that was looking to run a P18 or 20 with a 98 150 Merc on it, hopefully they will see sense, maybe ok for Euro champs to run only clean burn engines, but not in our national series.

Wayne Kerr · 06-12-2005, 08:37 PM

Sorry lads, but the way I understood it was; This is what we're doing, if you don't like it, TUFF!

Please let me know if this is the case or not !!!!!!

Wacky Racer · 06-12-2005, 11:54 PM

Meeting tomorrow will post results of as soon as

Wayne Kerr · 07-12-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by Wacky Racer
Meeting tomorrow will post results of as soon as

Wacky,
What news Amigo?

Wacky Racer · 07-12-2005, 10:09 PM

Still waiting for news let all know asap

Wayne Kerr · 09-12-2005, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Wacky Racer
Still waiting for news let all know asap

Bit rapidless on the reply front your 'guv-nin' body ain't they.

Wayne Kerr · 12-12-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Wacky Racer
Still waiting for news let all know asap

Still no news ????

MIKE HUNT · 15-12-2005, 06:09 PM

THE OFFICAL FOR FORMULA 3 IN SKI RACING AS OF FOR SEASON 2006 ANY 150 HP RATED ENGINE,SO ANY ENGINE WITH 150 HP ON THE BLOCK/COVER,ANY EASY WINS WILL BE LOOKED AT BY SCRUTINEERS!!!WILL CLASS SO OLD 150`S NEW CLEAN BURN 150`S AND FOUR STOKE WILL ALL RUN IN ONE CLASS AS FORMULA 3,WE IN BRITAN ARE HOPING TO PERSUADE EUROPE TO ADOPT THIS RULING 75% OK AT MO!.AS FOR ANY XR2 OUR CLUB CLASS IS NOW OPEN CLASS WHICH MEANS ANY BOAT WITH ANY ENGINE OR ENGINES!,SO THIS MEANS XR2 BOATS CAN RACE IN OPEN CLASS BUT THEY COULD BE UP AGAINST 2.5 OR TWIN XR2`S OR WHATEVER AS LONG AS IT PASSES SCRUTINEERING IT WILL RACE,OR RACE IN THERE AGE CATAGORY,BUT YOU CANNOT SKI IN ANY OTHER FORMULA IN THAT SEASON AND DROP BACK TO OPEN CLASS,SO SKING F2 FOR 1 RACE IN 2006 AT ANY TIME DURING THE SEASON,MEANS YOU CANNOT RACE IN OPEN CLASS,HOPE THIS CLEARS UP ANY QUESTIONS FOR RACERS THIS IS FROM THE OFFICAL MEETING!!!

Wayne Kerr · 17-12-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by MIKE HUNT
THE OFFICAL FOR FORMULA 3 IN SKI RACING AS OF FOR SEASON 2006 ANY 150 HP RATED ENGINE,SO ANY ENGINE WITH 150 HP ON THE BLOCK/COVER,ANY EASY WINS WILL BE LOOKED AT BY SCRUTINEERS!!!WILL CLASS SO OLD 150`S NEW CLEAN BURN 150`S AND FOUR STOKE WILL ALL RUN IN ONE CLASS AS FORMULA 3,WE IN BRITAN ARE HOPING TO PERSUADE EUROPE TO ADOPT THIS RULING 75% OK AT MO!.AS FOR ANY XR2 OUR CLUB CLASS IS NOW OPEN CLASS WHICH MEANS ANY BOAT WITH ANY ENGINE OR ENGINES!,SO THIS MEANS XR2 BOATS CAN RACE IN OPEN CLASS BUT THEY COULD BE UP AGAINST 2.5 OR TWIN XR2`S OR WHATEVER AS LONG AS IT PASSES SCRUTINEERING IT WILL RACE,OR RACE IN THERE AGE CATAGORY,BUT YOU CANNOT SKI IN ANY OTHER FORMULA IN THAT SEASON AND DROP BACK TO OPEN CLASS,SO SKING F2 FOR 1 RACE IN 2006 AT ANY TIME DURING THE SEASON,MEANS YOU CANNOT RACE IN OPEN CLASS,HOPE THIS CLEARS UP ANY QUESTIONS FOR RACERS THIS IS FROM THE OFFICAL MEETING!!!

So are you saying that XR2's, 150 Opti's, 150 Rude's & 150 4 stroke's are all OK to run in F3? 2.5ltr & 2.0ltr same class !!!
Is there no limit on "cc" just "hp"?
The Rude E-Tec weight is only 419lbs, the Merc 4 stroke is 510lbs!
Whats the full engine rules for F3?
Do you not have the rule that any engine used must be available for "Joe Public" to purchase ?

Wacky Racer · 17-12-2005, 10:27 PM

You can't run a XR2 in F3, they are 200 hp, any standard 150 hp (out of the box) engine regardless of cc

Wayne Kerr · 17-12-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by Wacky Racer
You can't run a XR2 in F3, they are 200 hp, any standard 150 hp (out of the box) engine regardless of cc

As I understood it, XR2's were rated at 150!
A bit of messing got 200!
I maybe a bit cock-eyed here ,,,,, but !!!!!!

Wacky Racer · 17-12-2005, 10:59 PM

First Merc XR2 Black Max 150 manufactured about 85 to 87 are ok as they produced 150 HP. XR2 sport, offshore mid etc about 190 HP, serial numbers will be checked as to engine compliance, so no old black max 175's with 150 covers etc.

Wacky Racer · 17-12-2005, 11:11 PM

XR2 150

Dangerous · 17-12-2005, 11:11 PM

So a 2.5 efi with a 150 cover is out of the question then! Back to the drawing board .

MIKE HUNT · 18-12-2005, 10:49 AM

AS STATED ANY 150 HP ENGINE WILL RUN IN F3,ITS UP TO THE COMPETITORS IF THEY WANT AN OMC RUDE OR JONNY OR A 4-STOKE HONDA OR A 15 YEAR OLD MERC THATS UP TO THEM BUT ALL 150HP RATED ENGINES NO MATTER THERE CC WILL RUN,NO NEW RACE XR2`S BUT ANY WINNER BY A LONG WAY WILL BE LOOKED AT VERY CLOSLEY.

Wayne Kerr · 18-12-2005, 11:14 AM

So it looks like it will be a Clean Burn fleet then!
Can't see a 20yr old Merc

holding up against the modern stuff for a whole season.