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24-11-2006, 08:54 AM
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Registered User
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Crash Helmets again
Any news on what the new regs are likely to be? I have seen some I would like to buy but don't want to until I know if they will be Ok
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24-11-2006, 01:04 PM
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Helmets to be to BS6658 or higher. Snell standards M200, M2005, or better still SA 2000, SA 2005 and also the new CE motorcycle standards. (ECE22-05). If you have either an ACU green or gold sticker, ECE sticker or BS green or blue sticker on your helmet; no problem. Helmets must be fluorescent orange,
if painted letter fom manufacturer to say it's ok to paint, and what with. Basically the same as the RYA.
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24-11-2006, 01:35 PM
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Helmets
How come its fluorescent orange all of a sudden, at the forum it was stated if you had the minimum rating motorbike kite marked you would probably be ok. We have never HAD to be fluorescent so is that a change to the 2007 rules, if so i suspect 90% of hemets in use will need to be relaced.
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24-11-2006, 04:39 PM
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RAL colours to come from Howard, will post as soon as I know, as all who attended the forum knows, rules are being revised as we speak.
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24-11-2006, 04:56 PM
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Registered User
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Helmets
Exactly as i remember the conversation at the forum, so dont panic or rush for aerosols yet!!
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25-11-2006, 01:42 PM
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Is there ever any changes to bring the cost of the sport down?
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25-11-2006, 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by fastun
Is there ever any changes to bring the cost of the sport down?
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Can't put a price on your head dude
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26-11-2006, 06:40 PM
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No I appreciate the safety side, especially when you see some of the tat that people call safety helmets!
Just a few of the other rules seem a little tight.. anyways, any news on where we can get the helmets from? Any people willing to offer their sources
Thanks!
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27-11-2006, 09:28 AM
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Helmets
Checked out the specification of our helmets and they have all the relevant
ECE22-05 AND Gold sticker, manufactured by Takachi and were i beleive about £50 - £60 each either full face or open, in red. Dont know the RAL colour they are, so will have to await new colour directive, but they are available in motorcycle retailers.
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27-11-2006, 10:02 AM
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Registered User
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Thanks Bazza, the Takachi are the ones I was hoping to get
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18-01-2007, 04:56 PM
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Please all read your entry pack, helmet colour is flame orange, no red
Quote:
1. Competitors are reminded that it is mandatory to wear a helmet made to a minimum of BS6658.B or a similar standard to include UN ECE22-05, and snell M2000, M2005, in flame orange.
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18-01-2007, 05:11 PM
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Ringle@der
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Wacky, will you be "stickering" helmets at the first race?
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18-01-2007, 05:28 PM
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Yes
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21-01-2007, 06:14 PM
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im confussed
if the rule states flame orange do all those with fluo hav to change it to flame u its not the same as the rule
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21-01-2007, 06:23 PM
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flame orange or flo orange will do if you look at the stilo or pelter helmets they are both ok as long as its not a matt finish it will pass and of course that it is to bs6658 or above for stilo helmets speak to mark or tessa at prima motorsport in poole 01202661034 they can sort you out
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21-01-2007, 06:38 PM
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they hav 2 make there minds up the rule says flme orng not fluo this is y i dnt srut any more
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22-01-2007, 09:00 PM
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Captain slow
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takachi helmets are £39 from blackbushe market
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22-01-2007, 10:14 PM
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As far as I'm aware you don't pay VAT motorbike helmets, correct? The Prima Motorsport site seems to sell only car and power boat helmets and states the prices for their helmets are excluding VAT. So do you have to pay VAT on helmets that are intended to be used in applications where it isn't a legal requirement to wear a helmet? In short:
Motorbike helmet, legal requirement, VAT exempt?
Car or boat helmet, no legal requirement, not VAT exempt?
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22-01-2007, 10:39 PM
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Senior Member
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Vat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Boat Dude
As far as I'm aware you don't pay VAT motorbike helmets, correct? The Prima Motorsport site seems to sell only car and power boat helmets and states the prices for their helmets are excluding VAT. So do you have to pay VAT on helmets that are intended to be used in applications where it isn't a legal requirement to wear a helmet? In short:
Motorbike helmet, legal requirement, VAT exempt?
Car or boat helmet, no legal requirement, not VAT exempt?
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Yes !! You have to insist they are for Motorcycle use.
Bob
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23-01-2007, 08:22 AM
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I thought that the nearest coulour that the takachi helmets were available in was red and from the posts it seems that for drivers and observers in ski-racing they should now be flame orange. Can anyone clarify please?
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