Sad photos of an old classic - Page 5

Delta28 · 01-08-2009, 11:35 AM

Closer inspection of the gel coat has revealed a circle around the number 4 where sunlight and/or reaction with the paint has made it lighter in colour..

This means that John Kennerley's 040 was created by adding a zero on either side of what was Don Aronow's no. 4...

Matt · 01-08-2009, 03:51 PM

Nice one, Sherlock.

Delta28 · 01-08-2009, 08:31 PM

Well, yeah... I know it sounds thick (don't mind admitting it) the point I suppose I was trying to make was that the number is the original 4 used by Donzi baby, not a re-drawn 040...

Speaking of Donzi...

Matt · 03-08-2009, 01:52 PM

I wasn't taking the mick! I woulda just broken out the DA sander, but you're going cautiously and teasing out lots of extra information where most people would have thought there's none, which I'm sure you'll be adding to the file as part of the restoration documentation. Who would have thought that you could do archaeology on glassfibre.

Delta28 · 03-08-2009, 02:21 PM

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Who would have thought that you could do archaeology on glassfibre.

Thanks Matt... and apologies, I've been reading the Planatec thread too often and automatically thought I'd have the p*ss ripped out of me! (I know... it would be richly deserved..)

Seems my crappy comment about bringing-in "Time Team" wasn't that mis-placed... I was wondering how I could replicate all the markings and ensure their size and position were roughly correct... it's all there, templates supplied !!

Got the name on (what's left of) the transom too...

big_johnny · 04-08-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta28

Thanks Matt... and apologies, I've been reading the Planatec thread too often and automatically thought I'd have the p*ss ripped out of me! (I know... it would be richly deserved..)

Seems my crappy comment about bringing-in "Time Team" wasn't that mis-placed... I was wondering how I could replicate all the markings and ensure their size and position were roughly correct... it's all there, templates supplied !!

Got the name on (what's left of) the transom too...

Congrats for the work , keep us updated.!!!!!!!!!!!

Delta28 · 06-08-2009, 07:22 PM

Cheers Big J... will keep you all posted.

Not long until the lift (and a few nasty bits of damage below the chine to inspect close-up)

Still need more old photos if there's any more out there... ?

Delta28 · 28-09-2009, 11:09 AM

A visit to the Basildon Motorboat Museum was useful in turning-up more pictures... Their scanner was down, so these are taken with a digital camera.

Quality is a bit poor, but they'll be useful. Best view of the deck i've got...

Pictures are probably copyright MotorBoat & Yachting... hope they don't mind.

Great mag, that MOTOBOAT & YACHTING... you really should BUY IT at every opportunity....! RAY BULMAN...? salt of the earth!! Really nice bloke too... (and that is sincerely meant!)

littlenige · 28-09-2009, 12:25 PM

Anybody know the reason for the exhaust extension pipes?

FLYING FISH · 28-09-2009, 03:12 PM

Yeah,it was to stop that bint from sticking her feet over the exhausts.

It`s the sort of thing you put on to stop water drowning the engines from backwash.Maybe the engines were out,but why launch a boat with no engines.Miss Embassy`s exhaust went up in the air,but that was to stop frying those anaroks on the pontoon.

Jon Fuller · 28-09-2009, 03:16 PM

That 'bint' is 40 years older now, and probably now deserves the title. (with the addition of 'old')

Delta28 · 28-09-2009, 03:57 PM

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Yeah,it was to stop that bint from sticking her feet over the exhausts.

Hah! I came to the same conclusion!

I agree that they were probably to avoid backwash, especially if the rear / aft / one nearest the blunt end / whatever... engine had packed-up. She lies fairly low in the water in the film of her retiring from the fairly rough '68 C-T-C, plus the exhausts were sited halfway down the transom to start with.

They may have been added in anticipation of surviving huge seas in RB69. I'll try to remember to ask John Kennerley...

Not as efficient as straight-through exhausts... but more spectacular!

You would sort-of expect her to moo.. or utter a loud mating call

I would quite like to replicate the side exhausts (if only to cover-up all the holes!) even if we go single-engined. Any idea where I could get these made?

Budweiser · 01-10-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta28

Hah! I came to the same conclusion!

I agree that they were probably to avoid backwash, especially if the rear / aft / one nearest the blunt end / whatever... engine had packed-up. She lies fairly low in the water in the film of her retiring from the fairly rough '68 C-T-C, plus the exhausts were sited halfway down the transom to start with.

They may have been added in anticipation of surviving huge seas in RB69. I'll try to remember to ask John Kennerley...

Not as efficient as straight-through exhausts... but more spectacular!

You would sort-of expect her to moo.. or utter a loud mating call

I would quite like to replicate the side exhausts (if only to cover-up all the holes!) even if we go single-engined. Any idea where I could get these made?

Give Martin a Call he had his made up locally to drivers

Delta28 · 01-10-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Budweiser

Give Martin a Call he had his made up locally to drivers

Thanks Mark.. I remember now! Excellent workmanship, reckon they'd do a great job.

Will definitely follow that up.. Cheers.

Delta28 · 04-10-2009, 01:20 PM

Fed-up with waiting for the "mythical" lift promised by my mate with the crane, i just got on with it meself...

Big clue as to how I moved it, in the foreground of the second picture....

Delta28 · 06-10-2009, 06:25 PM

Not quite as reckless as it might look... The lift was carried-out in careful, planned stages.

Mind you, it is a strange sensation dangling a twenty-eight foot magnum from yer Massey Ferguson...

Now up on decent blocks, there's more layers of paint to remove and the cradle is nearly complete (needs to be in that barn before the winter).

Delta28 · 22-10-2009, 11:14 PM

The 3-D scanning hasn't produced anything yet - you can't push people who are doing something voluntarily (that would otherwise cost a fortune). There's a problem with one of the four scans that they did and they've either got to come back and do it again, or upload / correct some of the data manually - which is taking an age... and these splendid young men have got busy lives to lead!

So I've resorted to making templates the hard way (with some old plywood) and the cradle is going to be made of wood... This is because: a) I have no stocks of suitable metal, b) my metalworking skills are even worse than my woodwork, c) I like the idea of something with a bit of "give" (could mask a multitude of sins!) as long as it doesn't flex too much... I would assume that a metal cradle would be more rigid, but then you'd have to be more accurate in its fabrication.

Oh, and d)... I've got bleedin' loads of wood !! I've got access to over 300 acres of oak woodland, but oak is very heavy (though very strong) and like iron once it's seasoned... In the old days they used it green, then let it season - trouble is, it moves (those lovely bendy old cottages were actually built like that..).

Cutting to the chase... i got a mate to run-out some Douglas Fir, which should do the job. It'll be based on the one that Surfury had - and that kicked around (and was still used) in the G&G yard for donkey's years, long after the old girl was moved to Sussex.

Serious carpenters / boatbuilders may want to look away now...!

Delta28 · 25-10-2009, 10:01 AM

Think I said the cradle was "nearly ready" a while ago... I hadn't allowed for the lack of daylight...

Bit like that Python sketch where he's making a model of the Cutty Sark in the dark... Not quite as good as you thought it was going to be, when the light is switched-on!

Gel coat came-up surprisingly well in places, though (as suspected) it's badly pitted elsewhere... there had to be reason for painting her, especially as the first time was in the same colour... Just done below the chine, where the cradle is going to sit - to save craning it for a while...

There's quite a few repairs / patching where the prop shaft / skeg have been re-positioned over the years, but there's a large, bodged repair (shown) that looks pretty serious. At least it doesn't extend down to the keel... Just have to wait until a surveyor casts his / her beady eye over it

Delta28 · 24-11-2009, 08:19 PM

I am delighted to announce that I have recently been given substantial help by TEAM 25... and in recognition of this I would be pleased and proud to display their logo on the side of MMT (being an historic boat it will have to be a fairly discreet label, though I'm sure a few low-key sponsorship tags won't detract too much from the overall appearance)

This very professional crew have put-in some outstanding performances this season... They were leading the Needles Trophy by a country mile when they had a strange "reverse parking" incident...!

They took the lead in the Cowes-Torquay-Cowes this year and only fuel problems stopped them from what would probably have been a resounding victory...

So, if there are any potential sponsors looking-in on this thread... I would welcome any further help in return for limited advertising space - and TEAM 25 have a massive, (possibly huge, if rumours come to fruition!) fast and eye-catching advertising hoarding just waiting for your company name!!

http://www.team25racing.com/

FLYING FISH · 29-11-2009, 07:27 PM

Talking to a friend of mine who worked in a machine shop.He reckons he used to make the plugs of various sizes for helicopter missile bodies i.e. like mini torpedoes.They could use say 0.5mm st.steel plate,circular in shape and spin it over the plug,rather like making a condom over it.This could be laser cut in half and have a welded flange on it to make the exhaust cowls.
I would have thought there must be some machine shops that have plugs laying around or even the missile bodies maybe.Just a thought.