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18-01-2009, 02:59 PM
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The "Bounty Hunter" is Coming
Bounty Hunter from way back in the 1970's has recently been completely restored in Florida and is now owned by Glenn Chidzoy. Glenn is bringing her to Poole this year to take part in the BPRC Poole Cherbourg Poole race. Still fitted with her original Keithekhart’s each giving approx 650hp and with her original beautiful design built for deep water running, she showed during her speed trials in Miami in early December that she is still capable of running in the low to mid 80’s. It will be great to see this fantastic looking boat running again in British waters and hopefully she should give a good account of herself. Bring it on Glenn!
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18-01-2009, 03:52 PM
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MPH or KNOTS
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18-01-2009, 04:21 PM
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It will give D2S something to aim at and with his 1200hp+ and low 80's could be within grasp as FF pointed out D2S does not appear to weigh in to heavily at 1200KG bare, let the historic boat duel begin
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18-01-2009, 04:41 PM
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D2s First run out will be cowes
IMHO it didnt quite have like for like speed 30 years ago so I see no reason to think anything has changed in that time frame.
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18-01-2009, 04:53 PM
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That is a shame , why not ready earlier ?
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18-01-2009, 05:59 PM
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Should be ready earlier, Want some time out & about in it first sorting out any glitches & problems, dont want to leave it to race day.
We have no problem in doing the mini series but try as we might the Bank is none to keen on indrect sponsorship during the current business climate so we will be restricting to cowes maybe!!
Edit: lets see how the poor old knees & legs stand up to one first, If its damp & Less than + 10 I'm screwed anyway.
More to the point its a Bounty Hunter Thread . Damm good looking boat one of my fav cig's
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18-01-2009, 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smillie
MPH or KNOTS
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MPH I'm told!
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19-01-2009, 06:42 PM
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Speed limit...
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Originally Posted by cfun
It will give D2S something to aim at and with his 1200hp+ and low 80's could be within grasp as FF pointed out D2S does not appear to weigh in to heavily at 1200KG bare, let the historic boat duel begin
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Interesting point, as the proposed max for the historic class is 50 Knots...? Mind you, Bounty Hunter and Double Two are both capable of keeping-up with modern boats and, of course, winning! They'll have to run in another class though...
If i ever, sorry, when (!) i get my old boat running she should easily be capable of 50+ kts even with the original spec single engine... so i'm sort of on the limit (but not capable of competeing with modern boats, except in the rough!)... seems a shame to divide a Historic Class before it's built-up any decent numbers... Great to see that boat restored, however.
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19-01-2009, 06:59 PM
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As we have just discoverd to our cost, some of the old race boats or even cruisers come to that just will not be capable of running at high speeds any more and we have to understand that. We have been told that even if we re-built Foam Flyer to her original condition, because of her age and structure she would not last long if we tried to push her through heavy seas at 40 knots as in the CTC or even RB12. She would be fine and a great little cruiser for weekend cruising in the Solent or for the occasional Poker run but for racing it's a no no I am afraid.
So, it's onto to plan "B". More details shortly
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19-01-2009, 07:18 PM
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A valid point...
Quite right, Mike.. and I have to admit that my most frequent nightmare is spending weeks, months, years restoring the boat and doing a "Magnum Tornado"...! I'd be so embarrassed I'd have to go down with her...
Joking aside, it's a valid point - we cannot push these older boats to their original designed (and beyond!) limits and maybe they're too precious anyway. How about bringing back the Round the Island? (especially appropriate for the historic boats, nice and gentle, usually! ...interesting, good spectator vantage points, relatively cheap on fuel, easy recovery / salvage...!) With a speed restriction maybe the Coastguard will even let us run in the Western Solent on a Bank Holiday...
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19-01-2009, 08:15 PM
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FWIW The "Modern Classic"
Midas has clocked 97MPH with more under the hood.
Bit more power than when she first came out but running strong all the same.
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19-01-2009, 08:31 PM
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Racing The Oldies
Shame Foamflyer won`t be letting rip again Mike.It always makes me wonder about these boats being not up to racing as before.Some of them have hardly done the hours to be relagated to being past it.I think a lot of it is the fact that we dare not put high risk to them ,considering the endless hours spent restoring them,and as Blu Fin has pointed out ,quite often it`s not a case of young men being capable of pushing to the limit.Engines are another factor.Your`e not recreating a situation where brand new engines along with the spares will exist in a lot of cases,budgets alone see to that.Restoring something like Maltese Magnum Twin to it`s original state with shafting,strut,rudder,sterntube would mean new patterns for one off castings etc so in order to proceed and have it working ,an outdrive becomes the option thus not putting it in the worn out situation,and it will have a new deck.So what determines it is past it,the hull structure,which by the look of it would need a major rebuild anyway.So now we are back to the high risk scenario for these precious craft.Love the nightmare re Magnum Tornado,that will drive you on to making a sound job of the restoration Ian.
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19-01-2009, 09:13 PM
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TBH Midas has all been replaced with "New" I did go the refurbish route but it was eating so much time & money it was just not worth doing. So much easier & cheaper to go New
If all goes well & I finish the testing she will run once more in 2009 before D2S takes to the water.
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20-01-2009, 12:53 PM
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When is old,old.
The business of Foamflyer not being up to racing stresses has prompted a look in the files.
Alloy - Unowot -5,000 miles
GRP - D2S & Cesa - 7,000 miles
I Like it too - 5,000 miles
Wood - HTS/Apache - 9,500 miles
Fordspeed - 7,500 miles
So,what are we saying.An alloy or GRP craft should have a life of 5 -7 thousand miles at least with minimum deterioration,and a wood boat (i.e. Souter or Fairey built cold moulded) could run up to the 10.000 mile mark,assuming it has been maintained every year,and that seems to be the wood downfall if it`s been unmaintained for 20-30yrs.
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25-01-2009, 12:38 PM
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Lookin forward to having the Old "Bounty Hunter" at the endurance events this year. What Class, What Engines , What competition,I dont know.
Thanks "Old Man" for making these events happen.
Compeating is one thing, compleating is another!! Duna: cheers:
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28-01-2009, 03:54 PM
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Oh my - I have to check the price of flights back to the UK!
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08-04-2009, 12:48 PM
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The good news is the Bounty Hunter is being prepared and shrinkwrapped
ready for shipping, and should arrive in Belgium early next month.
Still lots to do on the boat, and looking forward to having her at Cowes.
Duna
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08-04-2009, 02:00 PM
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Great news!!!!
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08-04-2009, 03:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunaruna
The good news is the Bounty Hunter is being prepared and shrinkwrapped
ready for shipping, and should arrive in Belgium early next month.
Still lots to do on the boat, and looking forward to having her at Cowes.
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Can't wait to see her, make sure she has big enough fuel tanks this time Glen!!
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08-04-2009, 10:03 PM
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Hi Mike, Thats one of a number of things which must be sorted.
lets see what the engines consume and move from there , May
have to join the classic class and stay within the 50 Knot max boundry.
Joking aside
i still rekon we need extra fuel tanks judging by my experience with the engine
builder. Cheers Duna
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