We made it,just.

[FLYING FISH]

Originally Posted by Pacific Marlin

Flying Fish.

I don't know if your post re Paper Tiger is meant to be humorous or serious.

Either way, I didn't paint it that "nice yellow" cos I didn't want it to look like a JCB.

As regards painting it "with a tub of Dulux" I suggest you check the facts before you denegrate a professional job.

You ever fully restored a boat from a bare hull to better than new?

Ian.

Oh dear,paint brushes at dawn.

With regard to my`tub of dulux` comment,I am well aware of the flattering comments that have been made re the finish,for it wasn`t aimed at quality of the job, but as a comment often made to any boat painted white with no other colour to make it look a bit interesting.

Your JCB comparision is rather amusing,since other Bertrams inc the original `Paper Tiger` had at least a bit of colour to them.I have always had an affection for `Paper Tiger` in it`s original guise`,so to see it pure white was a bit shock.I thought the idea was to replicate the original.

And yes I have painted raceboats with 9 coats to get a reasonable finish,and bloody hard work it was.

So a yellow `Paper Tiger` as per the original,beautiful.

I`m sure the restoration in general is superb,but I feel it`s like looking at `Surfury` painted white,just doesn`t seem right.

[Pacific Marlin]

That's ok then.

PS, she's Ice Blue on the topsides and Mattehorn White on the coachwork.

Ian.

[Martin The Talker]

Originally Posted by Pacific Marlin

Flying Fish.

I don't know if your post re Paper Tiger is meant to be humorous or serious.

Either way, I didn't paint it that "nice yellow" cos I didn't want it to look like a JCB.

As regards painting it "with a tub of Dulux" I suggest you check the facts before you denegrate a professional job.

You ever fully restored a boat from a bare hull to better than new?

Ian.

Hi Ian,
For my humble opinion, it looks great in the eggshell blue, although I realise that as Graham says, yellow would be the authentic race colour.
Thanks for the peek aboard at the RYS Pier.

[Pacific Marlin]

Martin,

It was my pleasure,

If anyone is interested I will post some pics of the restoration process on a new thread.

Don't want to high-jack Catweazles post.

Ian.

[Delta28]

Originally Posted by Martin The Talker

I would appreciate a copy of the first shot please Ian (With Paper Tiger etc).
Pls advise me of cost.
MN

You're 'avin a larf aren't you ?!!

My pictures are not anywhere near good enough to charge money for... or did you mean the hefty price of a plastic disc and some postage?

Just for you, Martin I'll waive my usual extortionate fees... you can have some piccies "for services to powerboat racing" ...plus your eternal, undying gratitude, it goes-without-saying...

If you want professional quality you need to go to Littlenige or one of the true "pro's"

I was going to do you a CD of Torquay anyway... I'll make it really tedious by adding loads more!

Will bring it to Weymouth

Back to Horatia! Thanks John, for showing us "the story so far" ...not-at-all daunting!!

[Delta28]

Originally Posted by Pacific Marlin

If anyone is interested I will post some pics of the restoration process on a new thread.

Would love to see the whole story Ian.

Please get posting!

Regards, Ian

(Yeah, unfortunate, isn't it? ..."mind if we call ya Bruce, just to keep things clear?!?")

Explanatory Note: Ya have to be of a "certain age" to understand that one... it's from Monty Python

[Pacific Marlin]

No problem Bruce.

Bruce.

[Delta28]

[Catweazle]

Thanks for all the kind comments,but no bugger done me a photoshop of Horatia with Grey coachroof.The famous picture is a Caterpiller official pic ,i have the original it was in a frame on the boat.

[Catweazle]

Originally Posted by Pacific Marlin

Catweazle.

It was good to meet you on the Sunday in Cowes.

Graham(the Thorneycroft family member) was very impressed.

You deserve appreciation for all the hard work you do to keep the Old Lady going and in such good order.

Ian (Paper Tiger)

.

Yes it was great to talk to Graham about the familly.My paint job was hardly profesional just the best we could do ourselves yours is truly imaculate.cw

[Catweazle]

Originally Posted by Martin The Talker

I think it was Horatia (Or Grand Espoir) in 1967 -.

It would of been G/espoir in 67.last heard of in spain a few years ago,the owner i believed died but no news of her since.She was completely ruined engines replaced with two mermaids i believe,i viewed her and wasnt at all happy with her.Owned by Cmdr Rodney agar at the time,He was navigator on Horatia in the 69 round Britain.I would like to find Espoir the smaller boat and came before G/espoir.

[THUNDERBOLT]

A full pictorial record of PAPER TIGER'S rebirth can be viewed on www.classicoffshore.com
select restorations then open Paper Tigers file by clicking on her picture.

Mike
THUNDERBOLT

[Martin The Talker]

Originally Posted by Catweazle

It would of been G/espoir in 67.last heard of in spain a few years ago,the owner i believed died but no news of her since.She was completely ruined engines replaced with two mermaids i believe,i viewed her and wasnt at all happy with her.Owned by Cmdr Rodney agar at the time,He was navigator on Horatia in the 69 round Britain.I would like to find Espoir the smaller boat and came before G/espoir.

Yes, the 34 footer I belive.
I remember seeing her, at Torquay, finishing the C/T race in either '64/5 or 6.
Twin Parsons-Cummins I think, without looking in files back home.
Total HP = 354 - am I right ?
Wonder where she is ?

[Catweazle]

Originally Posted by THUNDERBOLT

A full pictorial record of PAPER TIGER'S rebirth can be viewed on www.classicoffshore.com
select restorations then open Paper Tigers file by clicking on her picture.

Mike
THUNDERBOLT

Thats a huge amount of work,thank goodness its saved,the mans got to be congratulated .cw.

[Catweazle]

Originally Posted by Martin The Talker

Yes, the 34 footer I belive.
I remember seeing her, at Torquay, finishing the C/T race in either '64/5 or 6.
Twin Parsons-Cummins I think, without looking in files back home.
Total HP = 354 - am I right ?
Wonder where she is ?

I believe you are correct but know very little about it,only that it seems to be calling me from somewhere for my retirement.a very vague report from Jersey a couple of years ago.
The only pic i have of espior.CW.

[FLYING FISH]

Salvaged from the Vosper Sales Office,when the ex-fishead salesmen were having their 3hr exceutive lunch hour.

[Martin The Talker]

Originally Posted by Catweazle

I believe you are correct but know very little about it,only that it seems to be calling me from somewhere for my retirement.a very vague report from Jersey a couple of years ago.
The only pic i have of espior.CW.

THATS THE ONE !

[Martin The Talker]

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

Salvaged from the Vosper Sales Office,when the ex-fishead salesmen were having their 3hr exceutive lunch hour.

Whose a naughty boy then ?

[FLYING FISH]

A brace of Nelsons.

Bani Yas,Horatia & Sunpower.It looks like scrutineering at Souter before Round Britain,but I just can`t remember where scrutineering was for that.Avenger Too in foreground.

[Catweazle]

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

Salvaged from the Vosper Sales Office,when the ex-fishead salesmen were having their 3hr exceutive lunch hour.

Many thanks for those i havnt seen them before Cw.