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07-09-2010, 09:58 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
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Occupation: Land Rover Specialist.
Interests: Boats military vehicles
Boat name: HORATIA
Boat make: Nelson 40
Engines: Cats 800 hp
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Location: London
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We made it,just.
After working flat out on Horatia for ten days 7am till dark at Hayling we finally got launched the day before we were due to leave.No time for trials and as she had stood for a long while i had quite a few worries.the stbd engine started fine but as usual the port engine played up .Once started she was ok ,i think there must be a drain back of fuel when left for a while.
I have to admit neglect on the old girl due to downturn in business and finance ,but when i saw her i could of cried.
I hope i have made up for it in all my previous efforts i am sure she forgives me.no she didnt ran a turbo brng on the way home.bitch.
Many thanks to all the members who showed interest,even met a Thorneycroft relative who told me all about the test tank in the garden of the familly home,great stuff.
Also a RYS member told me about a race round the island on Horatia where he was present with Cmdr T/croft.Prince Micheal of Kent.peter Tunicliff of Vospers and Cmdr Agar.He said it was so wet they saw very little but went all the way round on pink gins,different world
A visit to the east Cowes musuem turned up some gems on Horatia included was the original Round Britain 1969 entry form for the old girl.
Nice to meet the COPOC team guess i had better join.Many thanks to John Idden for the mooring a true gent.Cheers John.
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07-09-2010, 10:15 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
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Occupation: Land Rover Specialist.
Interests: Boats military vehicles
Boat name: HORATIA
Boat make: Nelson 40
Engines: Cats 800 hp
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: London
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One of the main problems was the w/house roof it was built so thin a join in the timber kept opening up especially after any hairy runs,
we decided to Glass it over after much debate.
After the glassing had been sanded we decided not to fill and fair it due to the cost and really not needed ,i used a Watco two pack paint which is designed to be flexable,I then applied undercoat and gloss,i think it turned out ok.Watco really let me down on delivery of the paint putting the job 4 days behind ,To there credit they refunded the whole amount over three hundred pounds.Won one at last.
boy was that place spooky in the dark
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08-09-2010, 10:14 PM
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Lovely to see Horatia there John. That boat is part of my childhood..!
Thankyou so much for making the effort to get her there, she certainly added a distinguished presence to the historic fleet.
Nice to meet you too. Next time I'd like a good look-round the grand old lady...
All the best, Ian
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08-09-2010, 10:26 PM
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The sight that greeted me after a long seperation i could of kicked myself up and down the high st.
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08-09-2010, 10:33 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta28
Lovely to see Horatia there John. That boat is part of my childhood..!
Thankyou so much for making the effort to get her there, she certainly added a distinguished presence to the historic fleet.
Nice to meet you too. Next time I'd like a good look-round the grand old lady...
All the best, Ian
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Grand old lady my arse she behaved like a right tart on the way back ran a brng on the port turbo at 31 knts well i supose thats what happens when you dont use things.You know what the doctor says if you dont use it you lose it.
Great to meet you all the effort was well worth it one of the best wk ends i have had since owning HORATIA.cheers John.
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08-09-2010, 10:42 PM
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Jim makes a start on the wheel house roof the source of lots of problems.
The look on my face sez it all.
We had been talked into using a rubber coat paint a couple of years earlier,we hoped it would flex but it was a complete waste of time,it cracked and the water got underneath and went mouldy.
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09-09-2010, 08:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Catweazle
Grand old lady my arse
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Sorry, make that "Mankey old scrubber" then!
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09-09-2010, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Catweazle
The look on my face sez it all
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Yeah... I know that look SO well...
Anyway, gotta go... more work to do on the "bitch-whore from hell"...
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09-09-2010, 04:42 PM
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Sure looked good at Cowes!
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09-09-2010, 08:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by littlenige
Sure looked good at Cowes!
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Thanks for the pic,the bloke laying down should be in the engine room,i wondered where he went.Looks like i was a bit close to that yacht must be a trick of the light.I think we must of broken down i cant see any smoke from the exhaust LOL.cheers CW.
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09-09-2010, 08:42 PM
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Registered User
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The Graft begins.
Once the anti foul was done it became clear the weather was going to be against us so i had her moved to the shed.The lads in the yard gave some time to help meet the deadline .
Jim puts his spacesuit on and makes a start on the sanding.
Steve starts restoring the hull.
once the polishing and anti foul was finished i started feeling a lot better about the old girl.
The better i felt the thinner became the wallet.
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10-09-2010, 08:30 PM
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The hull was looking good so time to move on to the deck.
I must admit the size of the task hit me once again on seeing what was still to do.
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10-09-2010, 11:04 PM
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Boat name: HORATIA
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Engines: Cats 800 hp
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The filling and sanding was never ending.
the hatch covers were falling apart so were given several coats of epoxy and glued and screwed back together.
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13-09-2010, 08:16 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
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Occupation: Land Rover Specialist.
Interests: Boats military vehicles
Boat name: HORATIA
Boat make: Nelson 40
Engines: Cats 800 hp
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The two pack flexicoat goes on,i used this as a blinding coat to prepare for deck paint.It was too dark to leave so due to the stupid price and small size of deck paint i purchased garage floor paint in grey and white and mixed it.a handfall of kiln dried sand and i had just what i wanted.
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13-09-2010, 08:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: London
Occupation: Land Rover Specialist.
Interests: Boats military vehicles
Boat name: HORATIA
Boat make: Nelson 40
Engines: Cats 800 hp
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: London
Posts: 342
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The undercoat/Gloss finally go on,
Ready for the morning tide and Cowes,the flag ready and flying LOL.
It was a long haul but i enjoyed it mostly.
Cant decide whether to paint the coachroof the same colour grey as the deck.
It was originaly but i like the white just a bit worried about glare.i would be interested in your opinions.
Any one clever enough to photoshop the colour in so i could see what it might look like.i tried in paint but failed.
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14-09-2010, 09:51 AM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta28
Lovely to see Horatia there John. That boat is part of my childhood..!
Thankyou so much for making the effort to get her there, she certainly added a distinguished presence to the historic fleet.
Nice to meet you too. Next time I'd like a good look-round the grand old lady...
All the best, Ian
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I would appreciate a copy of the first shot please Ian (With Paper Tiger etc).
Pls advise me of cost.
MN
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14-09-2010, 09:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Catweazle
After working flat out on Horatia for ten days 7am till dark at Hayling we finally got launched the day before we were due to leave.No time for trials and as she had stood for a long while i had quite a few worries.the stbd engine started fine but as usual the port engine played up .Once started she was ok ,i think there must be a drain back of fuel when left for a while.
I have to admit neglect on the old girl due to downturn in business and finance ,but when i saw her i could of cried.
I hope i have made up for it in all my previous efforts i am sure she forgives me.no she didnt ran a turbo brng on the way home.bitch.
Many thanks to all the members who showed interest,even met a Thorneycroft relative who told me all about the test tank in the garden of the familly home,great stuff.
Also a RYS member told me about a race round the island on Horatia where he was present with Cmdr T/croft.Prince Micheal of Kent.peter Tunicliff of Vospers and Cmdr Agar.He said it was so wet they saw very little but went all the way round on pink gins,different world
A visit to the east Cowes musuem turned up some gems on Horatia included was the original Round Britain 1969 entry form for the old girl.
Nice to meet the COPOC team guess i had better join.Many thanks to John Idden for the mooring a true gent.Cheers John.
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Two memories of Horatia - You mention HRH Prince Michael of Kent - The report of the 1969 CTC Race stated that ahead opf the race, at The RYS, HRH said he would like to be part of an entry to the race.
I think it said that at that point all eyes moved to Peter T., who then entered his boat, with HRH aboard.
As they were heading west at Portland, Don Aronow leading in The Cigarrette passed heading east !
I think it was Horatia (Or Grand Espoir) in 1967 - I scrounged a ride with Don A., from Souters (Where Regent dispensed FREE fuel for practice & racing !!!), & heading to Hamble off Prince Consort Buoy, we met the Thorneycroft 40, & raced alongside & across her bows. I got wet with the side-slip of Dons 27 with triple Merc 110's - Oh Happy Days - made up for loosing Pirate Radio a week or so earlier !
1967 was the last year the race finished at TQ.
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14-09-2010, 10:44 AM
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While your`e awaiting Ian`s Paper Tiger pic Martin,(another boat using up a tub of Dulux white,why not paint it in that nice yellow as raced?).
Also the famous passing pic at Portland.(But don`t show the RYA,cause they don`t like that sort of thing)
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14-09-2010, 01:17 PM
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Flying Fish.
I don't know if your post re Paper Tiger is meant to be humorous or serious.
Either way, I didn't paint it that "nice yellow" cos I didn't want it to look like a JCB.
As regards painting it "with a tub of Dulux" I suggest you check the facts before you denegrate a professional job.
You ever fully restored a boat from a bare hull to better than new?
Ian.
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14-09-2010, 01:26 PM
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Catweazle.
It was good to meet you on the Sunday in Cowes.
Graham(the Thorneycroft family member) was very impressed.
You deserve appreciation for all the hard work you do to keep the Old Lady going and in such good order.
Ian (Paper Tiger)
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