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23-12-2004, 09:57 AM
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Country: UK
Location: KENT
Occupation: IT
Interests: Offshore water ski racing
Cruising area: !!!!!!!!!
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Are they any good.
what sort of speed is it really capable of as it is.
What money is it worth!
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From memory Martin raced F3 and F2 with his, hard to say how good it was as with Ski Racing the boat is only as good as the Skier.
Give Martin a call he will tell you what its like and if it was his old one.
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23-12-2004, 11:21 AM
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Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
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cyco i got the old style deck,clive still has the molds and will make one if you ask.
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23-12-2004, 11:23 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: Self employed monkey
Interests: racing, gettin wet.
Boat name: sea j marine
Boat make: 12ft scorpio,14 fletcher,16 argo
Engines: 25hp merc and 90 yam
Cruising area: southampton water
Join Date: Nov 2004
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And the new deck looks really nice.
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23-12-2004, 11:26 AM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
Join Date: Mar 2004
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k9 gotta disagree i wouldn't buy one with new deck.
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23-12-2004, 11:29 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: South West
Occupation: Development engineer
Interests: Fast boats
Boat name: Xtreme
Boat make: Bernico 21
Engines: Mercury F1, 300 Drag, XR2 "Fingerported"
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South West
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Originally posted by K9 racing
And the new deck looks really nice.
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I take it you being sarcastic
The new deck looks like it was made on Blue Peter from a Kellogg's Corn flakes box.
Roofer you have good taste running with the proper deck!!!
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23-12-2004, 11:36 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Originally posted by K9 racing
And the new deck looks really nice.
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Did David Blunkett tell you that?
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23-12-2004, 11:37 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: Self employed monkey
Interests: racing, gettin wet.
Boat name: sea j marine
Boat make: 12ft scorpio,14 fletcher,16 argo
Engines: 25hp merc and 90 yam
Cruising area: southampton water
Join Date: Nov 2004
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heres a pic of the new deck.....
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23-12-2004, 11:39 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
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The general concensus of people 'in the know', is that the new deck has insufficient upstand above the rubrail, and is generally too flat to impart any natural strength with it's shape.
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23-12-2004, 11:44 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: Self employed monkey
Interests: racing, gettin wet.
Boat name: sea j marine
Boat make: 12ft scorpio,14 fletcher,16 argo
Engines: 25hp merc and 90 yam
Cruising area: southampton water
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: southampton
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i think thats a bit unfair saying it looks like something from blue peter. i would by one if i had a bit of money.
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23-12-2004, 11:46 AM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
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and its pig ugly!
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23-12-2004, 11:47 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: Self employed monkey
Interests: racing, gettin wet.
Boat name: sea j marine
Boat make: 12ft scorpio,14 fletcher,16 argo
Engines: 25hp merc and 90 yam
Cruising area: southampton water
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: southampton
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i think its better looking than the old one or maybe its just me.
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23-12-2004, 11:53 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: South West
Occupation: Development engineer
Interests: Fast boats
Boat name: Xtreme
Boat make: Bernico 21
Engines: Mercury F1, 300 Drag, XR2 "Fingerported"
Cruising area: South West
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K9 I think your right it was a bit unfair to say that Blue Peter made it......I'm sorry about that!
Wouldn't want the BBC chasing me for slander, not even Blue Peter can make shit that bad.
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23-12-2004, 11:53 AM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
Join Date: Mar 2004
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i think if clive went back to the old deck he would sell a lot more boats,everybody up north ive spoken to dislikes the new style deck.
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23-12-2004, 11:55 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: Self employed monkey
Interests: racing, gettin wet.
Boat name: sea j marine
Boat make: 12ft scorpio,14 fletcher,16 argo
Engines: 25hp merc and 90 yam
Cruising area: southampton water
Join Date: Nov 2004
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i'm not gonna win this arguement am i.
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23-12-2004, 11:56 AM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
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no!
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23-12-2004, 11:57 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: Self employed monkey
Interests: racing, gettin wet.
Boat name: sea j marine
Boat make: 12ft scorpio,14 fletcher,16 argo
Engines: 25hp merc and 90 yam
Cruising area: southampton water
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: southampton
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never mind it was worth a try.
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23-12-2004, 12:02 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Yeah, joking appart, the new deck aint to everyones taste, but I'm sure as roofer says, Clive will make what ever you want, so nothing's been lost, whatever your preference.
I suppose he had to make a new version, to distinguish between a 'Baker' 18, and a phantom-uk 18, kinda drawing a line under the last builder, and moving on.
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23-12-2004, 12:10 PM
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Its a shame he didnt just smooth in the screen and maybe round of a few of the square edges like steve did with the P21. That would have looked well nice 
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23-12-2004, 12:15 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Yeah, the face lift the P21 got was lovely! really subtle, but looked cool.
I'd like to do a similar facelift to the 28
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23-12-2004, 12:35 PM
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#100
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Registered User
Location: devon
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Quote:
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The general concensus of people 'in the know', is that the new deck has insufficient upstand above the rubrail, and is generally too flat to impart any natural strength with it's shape.
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And these "people in the know" are?
Why do you need upstand above the rubrail?
How much more curved are the panels on your boat?
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