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15-04-2013, 08:12 AM
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A little close for comfort
Who was in the wrong here?
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15-04-2013, 09:46 AM
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Boat "00" had the inside line on the right turn, clearly had overlap and therefore had right of way. The boat with the camera on should have given way to him and gone wide (under UK rules). There was no rear observation on the part of the camera boat before making the turn, even they were aware of a boat on their inside. Had the turn been tighter, there could have been a t-bone collision and the outcome could have been a lot worse...
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15-04-2013, 12:11 PM
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00 as the overtaking boat as well as the fact he had ample room on the port mark !! I guess both were disqualified.
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16-04-2013, 08:52 AM
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The camera boat should have stopped, the other boat crew may have needed assistance - it's the lack of discipline in this area that resulted in the tragic accident last year with P1 (IMHO).
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16-04-2013, 08:57 AM
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It sounded like the driver of the camera boat was being told what to do, by the passenger. The passenger also sounded like he was telling the driver to stand his ground and make the other boat move. From what I could hear. Maybe a little too aggressive?
That could have ended so much worse.
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16-04-2013, 10:00 AM
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Senior Member
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Watch a bit closer at the editing !!
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16-04-2013, 10:14 AM
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camera boat did hook slightly and know one could of seen that this was going to happen
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16-04-2013, 11:56 AM
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Looks like someone is missing a gearbox!
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16-04-2013, 01:18 PM
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who"s in the wrong ?
the guy who picked that make of boat to race in the first place.
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16-04-2013, 01:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by odjsabre
Looks like someone is missing a gearbox!
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Good observation! You can clearly see the drive shaft in the slo-mo, and no gearbox
Is that what you meant Bob?
Would explain the sudden "drift" outwards when steerage was lost on a right turn...
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16-04-2013, 10:20 PM
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Registered User
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Yes, you can definitely see the drive or shift shaft leaving the midsection and no gearbox present.
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16-04-2013, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by odjsabre
Looks like someone is missing a gearbox!
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looks like your right
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