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19-07-2006, 09:19 PM
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Checking to see if an engine has been raced?
I'm now looking at a boat with a 130 Honda on the back, but the guy is being a bit shifty on the history of the engine.
I have a feeling it was used in the Honda championship. Is there anyway to get an idea of its past, either through wear on the engine or through giving the serial number of the engine to Honda and seeing what they say ?
Cheers
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19-07-2006, 09:33 PM
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dont know how to find out but they wouldnt race a 130 cus they use 150's
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19-07-2006, 09:36 PM
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Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
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Mmmmmh Honda 130 slow and very heavy.
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19-07-2006, 09:42 PM
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Interests: racing,wakeboarding,skim boarding,crusing
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did they not race the 130 before the 150 class?
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19-07-2006, 10:20 PM
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Country: uk
Location: Bristol area
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Interests: mmm stella
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yep definately raced the 130 b4 honda brought out the 150, 1999 they started with the 130 and the 150 was introduced in 2004
here i think
http://www.sundeckvip.com/racing/history.htm
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19-07-2006, 11:01 PM
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Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
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Re: Checking to see if an engine has been raced?
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Originally posted by rogers305
I'm now looking at a boat with a 130 Honda on the back, but the guy is being a bit shifty on the history of the engine.
I have a feeling it was used in the Honda championship. Is there anyway to get an idea of its past, either through wear on the engine or through giving the serial number of the engine to Honda and seeing what they say ?
Cheers
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If it's the boat on Ebay, advertised as an Extreme 21, then yes it's very shifty! The motor is an ex race motor, and the boat is a snide copy built out the back door by Danny, ex cougar employee. The build quality is shite, and boats and outboards have agreed not to advertise it anymore, as it's been advertised as one of mine in the past, but is clearly not!!!!! It isn't CE certified, and so is un insurable!!!!! if it's not the boat on ebay, then oops, sorry about that! 
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19-07-2006, 11:05 PM
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Country: Job Centre
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Occupation: Chaos's gofer
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Taken from the sundeckvip website......
"Seven years ago I was approached by Honda personnel who were interested in testing their large 4-stroke marine engines in a racing environment. Having found no suitable powerboat championship to get involved with, they were creating their own; the Honda Formula 4-Stroke series. I don't think they had any idea how popular it would become!"
Steve Curtis...
Wot aload of old shite....
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19-07-2006, 11:18 PM
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you could have the ECU read to see how many hours it has done at WOT
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19-07-2006, 11:29 PM
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Interests: racing,wakeboarding,skim boarding,crusing
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Why is that a load of shite ?
Yes it is the one from ebay, well spotted. In what way did he advertise it as being "one of yours" ?
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19-07-2006, 11:32 PM
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By calling it an Extreme 21
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19-07-2006, 11:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
By calling it an Extreme 21
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Tony Davis also manufactures boats called Extreme 21's ?
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19-07-2006, 11:38 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
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Quote:
Originally posted by rogers305
Why is that a load of shite ?
Yes it is the one from ebay, well spotted. In what way did he advertise it as being "one of yours" ?
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The series was devised by David Sewell of Raceboat magazine, and the boats were built by ourselves for the first season! Steve was brought along by David as a "celebrity" driver, who then went on to build the boats under licence from me!
As Matt says, by calling it an Extreme 21.....which it certainly aint! The boat looks like it's built out of corrugated fibreglass, and it really is a shabby bit of work! I complained to Honda about it, but I didn't ever get a royalty payment for it!!!! guess I'll be calling them again tomorrow. 
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19-07-2006, 11:39 PM
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Location: Hants/Dorset border
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Quote:
Originally posted by rogers305
Tony Davis also manufactures boats called Exstreme 21's ?
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Yep, that's me!!!!!!
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19-07-2006, 11:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Davis
The series was devised by David Sewell of Raceboat magazine, and the boats were built by ourselves for the first season! Steve was brought along by David as a "celebrity" driver, who then went on to build the boats under licence from me!
As Matt says, by calling it an Extreme 21.....which it certainly aint! The boat looks like it's built out of corrugated fibreglass, and it really is a shabby bit of work! I complained to Honda about it, but I didn't ever get a royalty payment for it!!!! guess I'll be calling them again tomorrow.
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Ok gotcha, I understand that.
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Originally posted by Extreme
Yep, that's me!!!!!!
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What, your name is Tony Davis too ??????
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19-07-2006, 11:43 PM
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Bet you struggled to remember the password for that account - or did you post from the "work" computer!
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Originally posted by extreme
Yep, that's me!!!!!!
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19-07-2006, 11:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
Bet you struggled to remember the password for that account!
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Oi, I may have had a 50th birthday, but me mind is still ok, unlike me back, shoulders etc!
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19-07-2006, 11:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by rogers305
What, your name is Tony Davis too ??????
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"Too", and I thought I was the one and only!
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19-07-2006, 11:46 PM
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Yeh OK.
Wanna buy some antifouling?  
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19-07-2006, 11:46 PM
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Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
Bet you struggled to remember the password for that account - or did you post from the "work" computer!
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Nah, he uses 'feltching' as his password for all his forum accounts, OSO, FIBnet, FIBsters, cottaging.net, etc. that way it's easy to remember.
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19-07-2006, 11:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
Nah, he uses 'feltching' as his password for all his forum accounts, OSO, FIBnet, FIBsters, cottaging.net, etc. that way it's easy to remember.
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I used too, but I kept getting logged in to Chaos's accounts, besides, apart from this forum, the only other that I frequent is www.dogging.com .......
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