coniston 09

[Captain Chaos]

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[roofer]

Originally Posted by motorvator

And before you start with "all you racers" I think you will find that the largest majority of racers here have not actually "crashed" or "sunk" a boat at all. It's called respect and helps with actually gaining a finish which is what racing is about.

How about a poll to see who's never crashed, flipped or barrel rolled while racing... I know a few people who's raced and most if not all have been out of the boat once and some getting on for double figures.

[roofer]

Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

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Says the guy who tripped on a wave at a poker run and nearly got wet .

[Ciao]

Originally Posted by roofer

How about a poll to see who's never crashed, flipped or barrel rolled while racing... I know a few people who's raced and most if not all have been out of the boat once and some getting on for double figures.

Sad truth - and expensive.

[Ciao]

The fastest you ever go is the second before it all goes wrong.

[the rat]

Originally Posted by motorvator

The point I was making is that an experienced driver does not need a gauge or to look over his shoulder at the engine to tell him whether the boat is trimmed right or not. They are used purely to select presets quickly before entering a new leg etc.

When you race your bike do you have a lean indicator to know where you are?

I'm interested in how you actually set the gauge as well. Do you wait until the boat is going over then say that's the position?

And before you start with "all you racers" I think you will find that the largest majority of racers here have not actually "crashed" or "sunk" a boat at all. It's called respect and helps with actually gaining a finish which is what racing is about.

ok was i seeing things last year when jan flipped??wasnt there a big accident this wknd and someone killed??wasnt chris loney hurt recently???shudnt you stick to doing fitness videos mr motorvator??

[the rat]

Originally Posted by Marinautic

Possibly, you'd have to ask them, but as it's their ball, you probably already know the answer.

I think in the case of Campbell, it was "his event" so he was able to call the shots, plus, where "there's blame there's a claim" hadn't been thought of then!

they cant just bar me from the event for my accident when others have done the same,there are laws against that!

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by the rat

can anyone tell me if id be allowed to run an 18ft talon with twin 2.5efis at coniston this year?

I doubt it. Not sure we need a drawn out thread to answer the simple question you asked.

You can't expect the records club to take on a risk they're not happy with as it'll be them that has to patch up their reputation if it all turns to shit.

Why do you need to go to Coniston anyway? Why not run on the river and achieve your speed. You'll still know you did it (or didn't)

A non class cat doing the ton whilst not adhering to any rules isn't particularly noteworthy in it's own right.

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by the rat

they cant just bar me from the event

I think they probably can.

Look, you posted asking if you'd be allowed. most have said that in their opinion, probably not. So your question has been answered. Or is it that you just want an argument and some attention?

[motorvator]

Originally Posted by the rat

ok was i seeing things last year when jan flipped??wasnt there a big accident this wknd and someone killed??wasnt chris loney hurt recently???shudnt you stick to doing fitness videos mr motorvator??

First off don't even think about mentioning this weekend in this context.

Secondly, I'll have you know I look quite fetching in my green leotard.

Now those two are out of the way, all that people here are saying is that the coniston records are run for classes of raceboats and have to show a element of organisational ability or risk getting the lot stopped.

Have you ever raced the boat?

Now if you really think that you are the next Donald Campbell then organise your own record attempt.

[the rat]

Originally Posted by Marinautic

Unfortunately nowadays you can't just go out and have an accident, someone has to be blamed, and in the case of an organised event such as Coniston, that would be the organisers. As your track record is less than perfect, then imho it would be foolish of them to let you have another go, as if you came a cropper again, questions would almost certainly have to answered.

Years ago i think you had to have been placed either 1st, 2nd or 3rd in a national or international event to be eligible to attempt a record, perhaps the reintroduction of that rule might go someway to sorting the problem.

if years ago you had to have a top3 finish in a race how did they allow mr campbell to do it as he never raced a boat did he??????????

[the rat]

Originally Posted by motorvator

First off don't even think about mentioning this weekend in this context.

Secondly, I'll have you know I look quite fetching in my green leotard.

Now those two are out of the way, all that people here are saying is that the coniston records are run for classes of raceboats and have to show a element of organisational ability or risk getting the lot stopped.

Have you ever raced the boat?

Now if you really think that you are the next Donald Campbell then organise your own record attempt.

as i thought a leotard wearing bender,does your husband know about this??
wot class of race boat did donald campbell have??

i havent raced a boat but done hundereds of miles in my phantom at speeds up to 85mph and the talon just over a ton,just because i made a mistake shud that mean i can never be allowed to run my boats to the max on a flat lake again??

why wud i need to race a boat to be able to go to records week,its a straight line isnt it?!
do you race?

[motorvator]

Originally Posted by the rat

if years ago you had to have a top3 finish in a race how did they allow mr campbell to do it as he never raced a boat did he??????????

Do you not understand that DC never turned up at Coniston Records week which is held for raceboats?

[the rat]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

I think they probably can.

Look, you posted asking if you'd be allowed. most have said that in their opinion, probably not. So your question has been answered. Or is it that you just want an argument and some attention?

hardly want attention as i never post anything on here,for the record peoples opinions are just that,nobody has given me the facts about this years event and that was if you read back my initial question wasnt it?

[the rat]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

I doubt it. Not sure we need a drawn out thread to answer the simple question you asked.

You can't expect the records club to take on a risk they're not happy with as it'll be them that has to patch up their reputation if it all turns to shit.

Why do you need to go to Coniston anyway? Why not run on the river and achieve your speed. You'll still know you did it (or didn't)

A non class cat doing the ton whilst not adhering to any rules isn't particularly noteworthy in it's own right.

its just a personal recorded achievment,is that so bad?

[motorvator]

Originally Posted by the rat

as i thought a leotard wearing bender,does your husband know about this??
wot class of race boat did donald campbell have??

i havent raced a boat but done hundereds of miles in my phantom at speeds up to 85mph and the talon just over a ton,just because i made a mistake shud that mean i can never be allowed to run my boats to the max on a flat lake again??

why wud i need to race a boat to be able to go to records week,its a straight line isnt it?!
do you race?

Not since you were in nappies, but seeing as how we've reverted to insults I guess that could make me current

[the rat]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

I doubt it. Not sure we need a drawn out thread to answer the simple question you asked.

You can't expect the records club to take on a risk they're not happy with as it'll be them that has to patch up their reputation if it all turns to shit.

Why do you need to go to Coniston anyway? Why not run on the river and achieve your speed. You'll still know you did it (or didn't)

A non class cat doing the ton whilst not adhering to any rules isn't particularly noteworthy in it's own right.

plus theres the fact theres a rescue boat there in case of emergency,not seen one on the wyre!to me its a similar event to a car sprit or bike sprint,you can do 180mh on the m6 but its not recored in any way and thats all im trying to do,cant you see that?the boat may be capable of 125mph but i wont be trying to hit that,thats not my intention

[the rat]

Originally Posted by motorvator

Not since you were in nappies, but seeing as how we've reverted to insults I guess that could make me current

he's left you hasnt he?

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

Look, you posted asking if you'd be allowed. most have said that in their opinion, probably not. So your question has been answered.

!!!

[bigboy]

Originally Posted by Jon Fuller

I doubt it. Not sure we need a drawn out thread to answer the simple question you asked.

You can't expect the records club to take on a risk they're not happy with as it'll be them that has to patch up their reputation if it all turns to shit.

Why do you need to go to Coniston anyway? Why not run on the river and achieve your speed. You'll still know you did it (or didn't)
A non class cat doing the ton whilst not adhering to any rules isn't particularly noteworthy in it's own right.

Jon,

With all respect but if everyone thinks the same there will be no coniston '09 anymore.