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29-01-2012, 08:03 PM
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Crate Engine
Evening all,
I've read in a few posts on here about people buying "crate engines", could somebody please explain these crate engines to me, and how they go about getting one?
It's to go in an Extreme 24 that currently has a Mercruiser 454 Magnum with Bravo 1 drive. If anybody could make a (reasonably) sensible suggestion on a motor I could get as a replacement I'd be very greatful.
Many thanks,
Andy
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29-01-2012, 08:15 PM
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525 EFI! Dave Corbet has got a good contact in the States, I spoke to him when I was thinking of getting a 250xs but I can't remember his name...
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29-01-2012, 08:49 PM
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Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
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You could presumably get the old motor re built ?
Coronet Kips the boy for that
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29-01-2012, 09:34 PM
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30-01-2012, 08:33 AM
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Country: UK
Occupation: Designin' Stuff
Interests: Boating/4x4s/Fast Cars
Boat name: Namotu
Boat make: Extreme 24
Engines: 383 Mag Stroker
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Paul, I'll have a word with Dave then!
Dutch, the 454 has just been re-built!
Kip, I do like the look of that, do you know if it'd be a straight swap for my 454?
If anybody has any links to places in the States that they've brought from I'd be interested to hear. I read a thread a while back about a guy getting a Volvo V8 for a black Extreme 24...
Cheers
Andy
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30-01-2012, 08:59 AM
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My 525's have 4 hours on them since the upgrade and dyno.
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30-01-2012, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by andy21
If anybody has any links to places in the States that they've brought from I'd be interested to hear. I read a thread a while back about a guy getting a Volvo V8 for a black Extreme 24...
Cheers
Andy
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I think that came from michiganmotorz.com
What the reason for wanting a new motor? If it's to go quicker, then I'd start with the drive height. It's too low, and would really benefit from raising the motor, or an IMCO shorty drive, or both.
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30-01-2012, 01:39 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
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Boat name: Namotu
Boat make: Extreme 24
Engines: 383 Mag Stroker
Cruising area: Channel Isles
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Dozzer/Tony - PMs sent... well, sending...
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30-01-2012, 05:56 PM
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Boat make: Rinker 282
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Hi,
i bought one of these Raylar 525hp engines from OSO cost about a grand to ship over though, plus dreaded tax.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42914-en.html
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30-01-2012, 10:29 PM
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Interests: Powerboats and Rugby
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Bulldog 500
Bulldog 500 inboard alan, that would have here singing
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30-01-2012, 10:44 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
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Boat name: Namotu
Boat make: Extreme 24
Engines: 383 Mag Stroker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big V
Bulldog 500 inboard alan, that would have here singing
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What motor is that Jacques? The alan bit has me confused!
What motor did your mate go for in his new 24?
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31-01-2012, 08:50 AM
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Ls V8
In my opinion these are a much better source of power. See link
http://www.partsworldperformance.com/
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31-01-2012, 11:25 AM
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31-01-2012, 10:47 PM
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Engines: 383 Mag Stroker
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PM sent.
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01-02-2012, 09:51 AM
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Boat make: Activator 32 1x1095hp SSM#VI
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Like Tony said it's might rigging things to take a look at before more power.
But a crateengine is not a bad buy. But you might do some updates on things like camshaft, valves, springs etc before you add all the other marine items.
2006 I bought a ZZ572/620 from http://www.crateenginedepot.com/cate...Category_ID=2& and had in my 28 Pantera. Then We went more bad when I hade the same engine in my 28 Arrow, we added a blower and thing like that. Now I going with the same engine in my 32 Activator.....but added a bigger blower...
//Mange
Yes, it's actually the same engine...
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01-02-2012, 02:20 PM
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My father-in-law bought an LS7 for a Cobra build. Stunning engine for the money.
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12-04-2012, 02:05 PM
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Country: UK
Occupation: Designin' Stuff
Interests: Boating/4x4s/Fast Cars
Boat name: Namotu
Boat make: Extreme 24
Engines: 383 Mag Stroker
Cruising area: Channel Isles
Join Date: Aug 2008
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All sorted...
Thanks for everyones input on this subject.
I decided to go for the Mercruiser Remanufacturing 383 Mag Stroker.
With help from Coronet Kip, Paul E and Tony Davis (via the power of the internet) it's all in and running again - took the first proper trip at lunchtime and it's running wonderfully.
Took this picture off the back of Herm - doesn't really show alot but it's the only one I took!
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