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10-09-2005, 11:55 PM
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crestomer
Where can i get crestomer adhesive from. i only need a couple of kgs
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11-09-2005, 12:14 AM
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I think it's pretty hard to get in quantities under 25kg.
which Crestomer, 1186, or 1196?
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11-09-2005, 12:23 AM
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best bet for a small amount is th persuade a grp manufacturer with some readies.
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11-09-2005, 12:24 AM
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i don,t know which one its for sticking a floor in before i glass over it .looking on the web. its 1156 that i want
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11-09-2005, 01:19 AM
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1186pa is the semi flexible grey bonding paste used by many rib companies to stick the deck/floor down to the hull, sticks like shit to a blanket and is flexible enough to be resiliant to cracking.
1196pa is a lightweight bonding compound used for bonding core (balsa, foam etc) to laminate, before over laminating to form a sandwich construction. (pink in colour)
sounds like you want the 1186pa.
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11-09-2005, 01:29 AM
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i think you,re right
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11-09-2005, 04:04 AM
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Don't think you want 1152pa not at £15 a kilo, why not put it down on wet mat? that's worked well for years.
Just today I cut the floor out of a 16' phantom, and that was only bonded with matt over the top, and even that lasted very well until some twit took it racing.
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11-09-2005, 06:15 AM
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£15.00 a kg does seem a bit ott
in the past i have used resin and short glass fibres to bed things down on but have always been concerned (slightly) about the bond. also this is quite hard and inflexable. i think 1186 is what i,m after.
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11-09-2005, 09:41 AM
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most of the later stuff from Steve had structures beded down on another compound called 'freefix', similar to 1186, but a bit less flexible, and much lighter. that is what went into mine.
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11-09-2005, 10:21 AM
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Have you tried Gav? I am sure he would sort you out with a couple of kilo's of what you need.
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11-09-2005, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrRob
Have you tried Gav? I am sure he would sort you out with a couple of kilo's of what you need.
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He's 'Mr Big' is he?...."take that Honky outside & waste him!!"
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11-09-2005, 09:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by sinkunit0
£15.00 a kg does seem a bit ott
in the past i have used resin and short glass fibres to bed things down on but have always been concerned (slightly) about the bond. also this is quite hard and inflexable. i think 1186 is what i,m after.
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1152 was developed to help mine sweepers survive the shockwaves of underwater explsions, and is the mutts for stucking thins you want to stay stuck.
Resin and glass will be as hard and inflexable as the rest of the boat (if you use the same resin).
JF not that horrid purple stuff that goes green and looks like hardened snot. used to use that by the bucket load for matrix bonding, only a few fell out
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11-09-2005, 10:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by kitten
JF not that horrid purple stuff that goes green and looks like hardened snot. used to use that by the bucket load for matrix bonding, only a few fell out
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No, tis light grey
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12-09-2005, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrRob
Have you tried Gav? I am sure he would sort you out with a couple of kilo's of what you need.
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I would have to agree with Kitten, dropping onto wet laminate is adequate for the job. I use a Resin + chopped fibres mix when bedding ply floors.
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12-09-2005, 04:20 PM
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Welcome back stranger
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12-09-2005, 04:25 PM
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Gav, did you get my pm ?
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12-09-2005, 04:47 PM
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Ta Mike
Yep got yr pm, will give you a bell next couple of days mate.
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12-09-2005, 08:08 PM
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thanks for the advice glass and resin then
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