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Old 22-11-2005, 08:57 PM   #1
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Does my ring look big in this?

Hi

I am looking for a bit of advice about an old ring I have acquired as a winter project (to be honest I can see I’ll be looking for loads of advice in the next few months!)

This boat is, I think, what is called a C class. It measures 16’ 10” and looks like it dates from mid 80s.Is this correct? It is a little tired as it was left hanging off its bow rope on a pier being sunk twice a day everyday! It had a 140 V4 Yam on it which is completely goosed.

Anyway the first bit of advice I need is about an engine for it – I have also acquired a 150 V6 Yamaha circa ’89 but am a bit concerned it might be a bit heavy for this boat. I don’t see much info about these engines on this forum - are they any good? It seems Mercury is the weapon of choice – are these better?
Would the boat handle better with a V4 or would making a bow ballast tank (I’ll leave the how do you go about that till next time) even things out.
I am a boat builder by trade - don’t do it anymore but know a bit about fibreglass itch!
Any advice would be great… thanks
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Old 22-11-2005, 11:57 PM   #2
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Re: Does my ring look big in this?

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It is a little tired as it was left hanging off its bow rope on a pier being sunk twice a day everyday!
For how long?

I'd have thought all the wood would be rotten and the fibreglass would be suffering from water ingress.

Mercury for performance Yamaha for reliability.
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Old 23-11-2005, 12:07 AM   #3
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Ring 16C

First thing, look under the dash, there should be a sheet of A4 laminated into the deck with a big number on it. it'll be 16C 210287 denoting the date it started to get laminated.

SCM who buld them now have told me that they've had 175 'rudes on them (60 degree type) but i reckon thats madness.

fella at my ski club has a 16C with a 115 yam (similar to 140) and thats a lively & nice boat
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Old 23-11-2005, 11:28 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info - I'll check under the deck tomorrowand let you know. Don't think boat was hanging for too long. It has some nasty gashes and scratches but nothing unrepairable. No prob with ingress into fibreglass.
The interior is gone, only the front seat mouldings left ,and the main floor etc looks ok in terms of rot/ delamination. thought i would take a few core samples through it with a small holesaw to see what its like. Doesn't look too bad to replace if I had to ... unless theres something I'm overlooking?
Do you think the V6 is too heavy? upset the handling in chop etc.
Any advice is great - I'm new to this powerboat lark so don't want to end up with something thats too much of a handful but fast is good!!
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Old 24-11-2005, 12:44 AM   #5
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yams are relatively heavy (i beleive). I reckon best way to go is flog the Yam (gotta be worth a few quid) and then stick 80-140hp on I.e up to a v4
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Old 24-11-2005, 01:10 AM   #6
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Stick a Johnrude V8 on it!!!!!
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Old 24-11-2005, 01:23 AM   #7
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as i said a v4............................or 2 on top of oneanother
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Old 24-11-2005, 07:58 PM   #8
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Capt'n I think you are probably right about getting rid of the yam and getting something abit smaller and lighter - does anyone know what these sort of things are worth?Or is anyone in the market for a swap...

Couldn't find any numbers on the underside of the deck so all I have to go on is the length - did ring make anything else at 16' 10''?

Would the Johnrude V8 be mounted midships to balance things!!
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Old 24-11-2005, 08:11 PM   #9
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Nah. Mount the V8 on the transom as usual and get a fat mate to sit at the pointy end.

There's plenty of women in my town who look like test pilots for Ginsters. I'll get some phone numbers for you if you want....
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Old 24-11-2005, 08:22 PM   #10
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youre lucky - living in the west highlands we'd die for beauties like that...
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Old 24-11-2005, 08:26 PM   #11
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You need the Mercury, dude. Something that can outrun the water haggis.

They come to the surface because the whine of the engine sounds like their mating bagpipes. Then they get caught in the props. Nasty.
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Old 24-11-2005, 08:38 PM   #12
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Old 24-11-2005, 08:47 PM   #13
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Not sure about Ring 16s dude, but I went to look at a Phantom 16 on monday that was on Ebay.

The couple wanted to sell it because they bought it for their 15 year old son and it's nearly killed his ass a few times. Wayne Kerr on here reckoned they were a bit fierce too, that was with a Merc XR2 Black Max 150 on it.

Read the 'Phantom 16 with Mercury XR2' thread on 'General boating discussion' if you want all the gory details.

175 should be, er.... lively!!
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Old 25-11-2005, 09:24 PM   #14
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thanks for the info Burnett!
Perhaps something a little smaller eh! Wheres the best place to sell/ swap something like a 150 hp motor, by the way I know where there is a Yam 200 just lying - am sure the guy would part with it for a song if anyone is interested. As for as I know it was going strong before he changed to a 4 stroke
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Probably:

www.boatsandoutboards.com

would be as good a place as any. Or good old Ebay.
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