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Senior Member
Country: ingland
Location: rinng faktery
Occupation: lanimayter
Boat name: rinng peas
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: rinng faktery
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I can smell mackerel
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luk arfter nummber wan. downt stepp inn nummber too
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09-11-2004, 06:35 PM
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Registered User
Country: Essex
Location: Great Stambridge Essex
Occupation: Director Paving company
Interests: Boating/Squash
Cruising area: Essex Marina/crouch southeast coast
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Great Stambridge Essex
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Cor how comes threads always turn in to a argument or complete rubbish
 
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09-11-2004, 10:01 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: Self employed monkey
Interests: racing, gettin wet.
Boat name: sea j marine
Boat make: 12ft scorpio,14 fletcher,16 argo
Engines: 25hp merc and 90 yam
Cruising area: southampton water
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: southampton
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you are write they are known as scorpio but the boat was regesterd as a scorpion
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09-11-2004, 10:03 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally posted by Taz
Cor how comes threads always turn in to a argument or complete rubbish
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coz I can smell mackerel
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09-11-2004, 10:06 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Originally posted by K9 racing
you are write they are known as scorpio
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No, not 'Known as', the Designer, Bill Maloney, named them Scorpio Sorcerer, 30 odd years ago, and it's what they've always been called.
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09-11-2004, 10:10 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: Self employed monkey
Interests: racing, gettin wet.
Boat name: sea j marine
Boat make: 12ft scorpio,14 fletcher,16 argo
Engines: 25hp merc and 90 yam
Cruising area: southampton water
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: southampton
Posts: 888
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i never new that. ok you win
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09-11-2004, 10:14 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Reading
Occupation: Being a mummy
Interests: Cruising
Boat name: Blue Ice
Boat make: Scorpion 7.5m RIB
Engines: Yamaha 200 hpdi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Reading
Posts: 563
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Scorpio/Scorpion
Hey don't confuse the beautiful Scorpion RIB with a little Noddy-style hard boat! 
(Only joking, K9  )
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09-11-2004, 10:21 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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As it goes, the Ultra warped hull form of Maloney's boats are superb in rough water, similar to, but even more heavily warped than a Scorpion RIB.
A 21' Scorpio would surprise you in a big sea.
However, .....I smell Mackerel!
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09-11-2004, 11:44 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by Johnson
No, not 'Known as', the Designer, Bill Maloney, named them Scorpio Sorcerer, 30 odd years ago, and it's what they've always been called.
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True Bill was the original designer/builder but Scorpio/ion was a seperate company. His son in law now builds them and does a 7M rib version just to confuse things more..
Think it's under sorcerer composites now and we own the last one outa the mould from 2003.
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10-11-2004, 12:01 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally posted by JBP
His son in law now builds them and does a 7M rib version just to confuse things more..
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Yes, Phil, I know him well.
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10-11-2004, 12:47 AM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,291
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Do you know my uncle Les by chance?
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10-11-2004, 06:52 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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10-11-2004, 08:26 AM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Yes, Phil, I know him well.
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Yeh, along with Carl, Roger, Clive and the rest!!!!!!!! 
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10-11-2004, 08:37 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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You forgot Dirk Diggler!
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11-11-2004, 03:08 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: engineer
Interests: lots
Boat make: scorpion 8.1
Engines: 250HO
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: southampton
Posts: 1,353
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Quote:
Originally posted by Johnson
As it goes, the Ultra warped hull form of Maloney's boats are superb in rough water, similar to, but even more heavily warped that a Scorpion.
A 21' Scorpio would surprise you in a big sea.
However, .....I smell Mackerel!
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anyone know the figures on a scorpions hull arent they very sharp aft hence their slightly sluggish efficiency.. i dont know what the forward section of a sorcerer is but aft is 20 deg deadrise. can you still measure deadrise at the front?? and is it from the horizontal. 
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11-11-2004, 03:15 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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As a general rule, deadrise is measured from the horizontal, at the transom.
Highly warped bottoms are great in rough stuff, but you pay for that in top speed and directional stability at high speed, so as usual, it's all a trade off.
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11-11-2004, 09:49 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Got to admit the sorcerer is one of the most stable hulls there is hence it's suitability for the kids to race in. with a 20hp 2stroke they can still do nearly thirty in open water (well 500-600M from the beach........)
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12-11-2004, 01:23 PM
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#38
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Registered User
Location: Just West of Edinburgh
Occupation: computer stuff
Interests: bikes and boats
Boat name: Iona
Boat make: Zodiac 550 pro open
Engines: Mariner 115 Opti
Cruising area: Loch Lomond
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Just West of Edinburgh
Posts: 39
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23-11-2004, 09:44 PM
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member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,039
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Thanks Three Rex got that one on e-bay, needs a little work but generally sound.
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