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03-07-2005, 06:59 PM
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Country: Wales
Location: Southampton
Occupation: boat driver/Instructor
Interests: boats , laughing and music
Boat name: Dyna Mo Humm
Boat make: Avon Searider 8.4mmmm
Engines: Cat 4216 450hp
Cruising area: Solent
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Location: Southampton
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for fkks sake don't tell
anyone on my our Spiritual home (Ribnet) But I have been looking at buying a Phantom 21 with an XR2. It's oldish so is there any areas of concern that I should be looking at!
Also how f f f f ast might it be!
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03-07-2005, 07:10 PM
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a well setup one should do around 70mph
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03-07-2005, 07:36 PM
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Country: Wales
Location: Southampton
Occupation: boat driver/Instructor
Interests: boats , laughing and music
Boat name: Dyna Mo Humm
Boat make: Avon Searider 8.4mmmm
Engines: Cat 4216 450hp
Cruising area: Solent
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Location: Southampton
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cool
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04-07-2005, 06:52 AM
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Cruising area: tyne
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you,re not going to chop it up to make a rib are you
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04-07-2005, 03:28 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Re: for fkks sake don't tell
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Originally posted by Borldscratcher
Also how f f f f ast might it be!
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I would estimate a little lower than Burty, and say low to mid 60's
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05-07-2005, 07:21 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cornwall
Occupation: Civil Engineer in the water industry
Interests: Powerboat racing, travel, curries, zimmers
Boat name: "N" Class fabrication
Boat make: B23
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: Torbay & Falmouth
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cornwall
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John is not too far out on his estimation of the speed of our P21. We have seen just over 67 on flat water but using a prop that you would never contemplate racing with! Using our race prop we can hold 66 in flat to intermediate conditions but how often do you get ideal conditions to run like that. At Torquay we were flat out, it was fairly calm but with the odd wash that could catch you out and the most we saw on our GPS was 65.
I am hoping we can get a little more out of it but my problem is finding the time to go out testing. I live in Cornwall, work in the Midlands and my navigator lives in Kent! We are hoping to try a few more things before Littlehampton but it will depend on weather etc.
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05-07-2005, 07:49 PM
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The Doc
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now i do feel guilty
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05-07-2005, 10:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by "Old beardy"
John is not too far out on his estimation of the speed of our P21. We have seen just over 67 on flat water but using a prop that you would never contemplate racing with! Using our race prop we can hold 66 in flat to intermediate conditions but how often do you get ideal conditions to run like that. At Torquay we were flat out, it was fairly calm but with the odd wash that could catch you out and the most we saw on our GPS was 65.
I am hoping we can get a little more out of it but my problem is finding the time to go out testing. I live in Cornwall, work in the Midlands and my navigator lives in Kent! We are hoping to try a few more things before Littlehampton but it will depend on weather etc.
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Mr sterling am I right in thinking that you have abit of a skiracing background? before ocr? the reason im asking is because I was just wondering about how the two differnt setups of skiracing boats and ocr/ race boats affect the speed of the boat . You say above that your phantom will do 67 on the flat ( which is a good honest speed) but would it still do 67 towing a skier?? . Im I right in thinking that skiracing boats run with more weight to flatten the water more for the skier?
thankyou
ps: a few years ago you sold my dad a ring 16! great little boat!
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06-07-2005, 06:53 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cornwall
Occupation: Civil Engineer in the water industry
Interests: Powerboat racing, travel, curries, zimmers
Boat name: "N" Class fabrication
Boat make: B23
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: Torbay & Falmouth
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cornwall
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dean21
Mr sterling am I right in thinking that you have abit of a skiracing background? before ocr? the reason im asking is because I was just wondering about how the two differnt setups of skiracing boats and ocr/ race boats affect the speed of the boat . You say above that your phantom will do 67 on the flat ( which is a good honest speed) but would it still do 67 towing a skier?? . Im I right in thinking that skiracing boats run with more weight to flatten the water more for the skier?
thankyou
ps: a few years ago you sold my dad a ring 16! great little boat!
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Yes my past is catching up with me! I used to ski for Weston back in the late eighties (not very well I hasten to add!) I only learnt to ski at the age of 32 and was ski-racing at 35. The level of fitness required for someone who had started late in his career was the biggest factor and I struggled towards the end of a race. It was also my boat, my girlfriend was the observer and my driver used to let me down on a regular basis, so we used to have to "borrow" a driver for the support race (veterans). In ski racing it is a team sport and getting the understanding between observer, skier and driver was a problem at most races as each team have their own signals etc, so we again struggled. I didn`t get chance to drive my own boat so that was the contributing factor for joining OCR. The boat was a 19 Marshan with an XR2 called No Problem! Having competed for a couple of years I take my hat off to those who make it look so easy!
I have very little experience of actually towing a skier in race conditions so I cannot compare the speed of my P21 or advise on set up. The boat I have is an ex ski race boat but I bought it set up to do OCR. I am told it used to run a belly tank in its ski racing days.
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06-07-2005, 07:16 PM
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thanks for the reply!!!
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10-07-2005, 12:30 AM
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Registered User
Country: Wales
Location: Southampton
Occupation: boat driver/Instructor
Interests: boats , laughing and music
Boat name: Dyna Mo Humm
Boat make: Avon Searider 8.4mmmm
Engines: Cat 4216 450hp
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Southampton
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whilst on the subject of welfar motors let's not forget Alka Seltzers
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