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23-02-2007, 10:00 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Southampton
Boat name: Intrepid & Jaws
Boat make: R*b & Zapcat
Engines: 2x 150hp Yamaha HPDI + Tohatsu 50hp
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Good deal?
I'm looking around again for a project, found this on B&O... anyone know the history? Would there be any problems with restoring it?
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F130867/
What lump would you suggest putting it on the back?
Thanks
Ben
Edit: Just realised it has a 175hp engine on the back - now it starting to sound like a scam! Surely, boat+engine is worth more thatn £2750??
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23-02-2007, 10:07 AM
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numbskull
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Ben, that's ancient!
pre 1980............ BEWARE OF ROTTEN STRUCTURES
Someone on here pointed out the ad a while ago, seem to remember it is thought to be a fairly well known race boat 'of the time'.
It wouldn't be one I'd reccomend as a venture into 'hardboating'.
They require massive 'commitment' to perform in a safe and exciting way.
Not cheap either!
JF
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23-02-2007, 10:27 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Southampton
Boat name: Intrepid & Jaws
Boat make: R*b & Zapcat
Engines: 2x 150hp Yamaha HPDI + Tohatsu 50hp
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Location: Southampton
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Thought it was too good to be true
I am looking for something that needs some work.. I have my rib and zapcat to get on the water when I need my "adrenaline fix"
Am I right in thinking the 23' has cabin (tiny im sure, but dry storage?)
Maybe I should aim for a P21 first? or maybe a ring 20... ? What other options are there?
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23-02-2007, 11:24 AM
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Jon it cant be that hard to just completely replace the whole floor and structure...can it?
Didn't Burty have the structure replaced on his boat after he hooked it and broke it ?
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23-02-2007, 11:31 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
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Boat name: Leviathan
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Originally Posted by benc
Am I right in thinking the 23' has cabin (tiny im sure, but dry storage?)
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No cabin.
This is a very narrow (6' overall beam, 5' chine beam) race boat. there's an area under the deck wheryou could chuck stuff, but nothing that was ever intended as a cabn, or even storage of any real use.
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23-02-2007, 02:00 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Southampton
Boat name: Intrepid & Jaws
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D'oh, was sure I saw something about the 23's with a "cabin" before.
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23-02-2007, 02:31 PM
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The Doc
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no, some 25 copies have had a cabin........ but thats a 'taboo' subject!
(you see what i've done there?)
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23-02-2007, 02:58 PM
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Some Phantom 25's had a cabin I believe
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23-02-2007, 03:22 PM
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The Doc
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yeh in fact the reddish marine (silver black/300X) 25 has a cuddy i think
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23-02-2007, 05:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PuppiesBalls
Jon it cant be that hard to just completely replace the whole floor and structure...can it?
Didn't Burty have the structure replaced on his boat after he hooked it and broke it ?
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No dude.
I only had a new floor,
To replace structures is a nightmare and not worth it.
would really need to take deck off to replace timbers
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23-02-2007, 06:01 PM
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It almost be easier to build a new boat.
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23-02-2007, 06:18 PM
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Thats what i was just gunna say!
I got a Ring 21/superspeed 6 wheel trailer for sale...if any help?
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23-02-2007, 06:28 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
It almost be easier to build a new boat.
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There's no 'Almost' about it!
cors, you need a mould!
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23-02-2007, 06:37 PM
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is there any moulds about?
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23-02-2007, 06:39 PM
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I think Trio own them, or can contact the owner.
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23-02-2007, 06:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PuppiesBalls
Jon it cant be that hard to just completely replace the whole floor and structure...can it?
Didn't Burty have the structure replaced on his boat after he hooked it and broke it ?
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It's a lot of work, believe me
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23-02-2007, 07:13 PM
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Location: Portsmouth
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: everything fast
Boat make: Phantom 28/phantom 18
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phantom
i found out about a new 23 from trio its £13.000 i think thats a lot
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23-02-2007, 07:23 PM
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Yeh, but they do put a lot of material in them to justify it. On a £/lb basis it's probably better value than anyone!
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