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03-01-2009, 05:14 PM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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My first big crash
Hey guys, happy new year to you all. Just a quick note to let you all know how the Marshan is coming on. After it was damaged during last years 'Brass Monkey' it was decided that a full refresh was in order so everything came out and all new went back in stiffer and stronger. I managed to get hold of a very clean 2.4L. So we were off on the first test. Everything went well but the engine was not 100%. Back in to the garage and got the carbs all set up and machined most of the airbox off and removed the oil injection and took off the alarm module.
First test was new years eve out of Yarmouth, N/E 15kts choppy. Hardly perfect but acceptable. The first run was with the missus, the boat ran an absolute treat. Having the missus on board kept the right foot a little bit light though. Back in to the harbour to pick up the navigator for this years 'Brass Monkey'. Again the boat was going well, 6100rpms now. We started getting a few things dialled in and really started going well. There were one or two hairy moments but we took them in our stride, the boat was singing, flat out she was and then BANG, bow skyward, landed on her port side, spun out hard to port then over she went to starboard. How we didn't roll it completely i will never know. My head was underwater at one point. When the dust settled i asked the navigator if he was ok, Where the hell is he........ Ben was 30ft behind me in the drink!!!! He managed to swim back to the boat and when i dragged him back on board i realised that my right shoulder wasn't quite right. We pottered back into the harbour and on closer inspection the boat is fine but my collar bone is shattered!!!!!!
Thinking the whole event through, we've come to the conclusion the Ben (15stone) crushed me against the side of the boat on his way out! Luckily we were both wearing helmets and decent lifejackets, had we not have been, who knows what would have happened. I suppose the moral to the story is that you never know what's around the corner, especially when your doing high speeds on water. If your as prepared as you can be then you've got the best chances, should anything occur.
I'm going to see a specialist on monday about having the bone fused back together, fingers crossed I'll be at the 'Brass Monkey' Hope to see you there.
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03-01-2009, 10:55 PM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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pics?
Could anyone instruct me on how to upload some pics?
Thanks.
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04-01-2009, 10:03 AM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Weston Super Mare
Occupation: Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Weston Super Mare
Posts: 6,351
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click on manage attachments below the reply box then upload them one at a time a maximum of 6 per post
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04-01-2009, 03:50 PM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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Pics
Just a few pics from the fateful day. Sorry about the quality, they were taken of a camcorder.
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04-01-2009, 05:11 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: South West
Occupation: Development engineer
Interests: Fast boats
Boat name: Xtreme
Boat make: Bernico 21
Engines: Mercury F1, 300 Drag, XR2 "Fingerported"
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South West
Posts: 1,043
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What Prop?
What prop are you using?
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04-01-2009, 05:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: Sweden
Location: At the coast
Occupation: Instigator
Interests: Offshore racing
Boat name: Two wings to rule em all
Boat make: B23 & V24
Engines: Volvo 2.0 & GXi 5.7
Cruising area: All over Sweden
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: At the coast
Posts: 237
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From what i understand you got away with minor damages if you concider speed/crash. Just like me, i guess sometimes you are lucky
Crashing on water can hurt like a btch. Looks like you hade fun on the pictures. Hope you recover fast. I spent 4 days at a hospital 750km from home and after that 5 weeks in bed after our little incident :P
Smashed up my back pretty bad and it took a pretty long time for the fractures to heal. But now im fine and ready to run again i hope the same goes for you
Regards.
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04-01-2009, 06:02 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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TD had a nice purple torso just like that after he fell out of the seat in the LA race of '97. Dr Mengler gave it a good prod to make sure it was ok.
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04-01-2009, 07:19 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hampshire
Occupation: Credit Crunched
Interests: Rally Driving
Boat name: Double 2 Shirts
Boat make: Planatec 41
Engines: 2x625's+ From Uncle Sam
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2,522
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
TD had a nice purple torso just like that after he fell out of the seat in the LA race of '97. Dr Mengler gave it a good prod to make sure it was ok.
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Dr. Josef Mengele ?
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04-01-2009, 07:28 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pash 1
Dr. Josef Mengele ?
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No, Dr Ralph Mengler
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04-01-2009, 08:05 PM
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Traveling
Country: UK
Location: Alderholt
Occupation: Aerospace
Boat name: T/T D2S
Boat make: Midas 27' Cat, Argo 16 Cat. Avon Rib Thingy
Engines: Merc 280-ROS -JSRE,65Xs, 75 Stinger, Yam 60
Cruising area: Any Seedy Bar
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Alderholt
Posts: 4,225
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MMMMh well done on the pic I think. Personally I prefer Bleu
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04-01-2009, 09:23 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Bournemouth
Occupation: Occupational Therapy Student
Interests: Boating, Clay Pigeon Shooting
Boat name: B92
Boat make: Bakdraft!
Engines: Yamaha 90!
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 118
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Guys... all this talk of crashing isnt really helping me promote powerboating to mum as a safe sport for me to be doing ... how about some more upbeat pictures to help my case.. Trophies .. Bottles of champagne... etc..
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04-01-2009, 09:34 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wishful thinking
Guys... all this talk of crashing isnt really helping me promote powerboating to mum as a safe sport for me to be doing ... how about some more upbeat pictures to help my case.. Trophies .. Bottles of champagne... etc..
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Here goes then
JF loves this one
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04-01-2009, 09:53 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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On the contrary, an outstanding and well deserved victory.
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04-01-2009, 09:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
On the contrary, an outstanding and well deserved victory.
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Actually just the best of a bad bunch ( great teams and guys mind ) , thats how i saw it.
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04-01-2009, 10:14 PM
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Registered User
Country: Sweden
Location: At the coast
Occupation: Instigator
Interests: Offshore racing
Boat name: Two wings to rule em all
Boat make: B23 & V24
Engines: Volvo 2.0 & GXi 5.7
Cruising area: All over Sweden
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: At the coast
Posts: 237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wishful thinking
Guys... all this talk of crashing isnt really helping me promote powerboating to mum as a safe sport for me to be doing ... how about some more upbeat pictures to help my case.. Trophies .. Bottles of champagne... etc..
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Alright, ill can take a picture of some tomorrow
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05-01-2009, 09:17 AM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyco
What prop are you using?
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Hi Cyco, I'm using a 26" Tempest at the moment. In the chop I could do with a 24" or similar. Why do you ask?
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05-01-2009, 11:43 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: South West
Occupation: Development engineer
Interests: Fast boats
Boat name: Xtreme
Boat make: Bernico 21
Engines: Mercury F1, 300 Drag, XR2 "Fingerported"
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South West
Posts: 1,043
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Prop choice
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Originally Posted by wiggy808
Hi Cyco, I'm using a 26" Tempest at the moment. In the chop I could do with a 24" or similar. Why do you ask?
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On a narrow hull like yours prop choice has a lot to do with handling!
Also once the boat gets into a chine walk sometimes doing the obvious like taking your foor out of the throttle is the worst thing that you could do.
I chopper prop for example will bite in on and make the boat rock very quickly from side to side ( pretty much as you described)
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05-01-2009, 01:30 PM
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wiggy808
Country: Southampton
Location: Southampton
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Interests: wakeboarding, power boats, 900hp Audi
Boat name: Marshan19
Boat make: Marshan 19, Mirage 22
Engines: Mariner 200, 2.2 5cyl Audi
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southampton
Posts: 133
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I've been warned against choppers on the marshan for that very reason. What do you think of the tempest, good choice bad choice?
After the incident we started looking in to any issues we had and came to the conclusion that the engine mounts are shot, therefore not helping. going to replace them with solid. Does anyone know of any off the shelf or am I going to have to knock some up?
Thanks.
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05-01-2009, 05:49 PM
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Trade Member
Country: England
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Boatbuilder / Design
Interests: Anything powered on wheels, water or air
Boat name: OVERLORD
Boat make: RING 34' SPORTSBOAT 2 X V8 PETROL
Engines: 2 x 320 MERCRUISER B1
Cruising area: South coast
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 406
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
No, Dr Ralph Mengler
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Dat Iss qvite inevicient, TD beink iterrrogated by zer inkorrect Doktor !!
Did he talk , or iss zat bent motor still Zecret and back at Peenemunde ?
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05-01-2009, 06:15 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Weston Super Mare
Occupation: Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Weston Super Mare
Posts: 6,351
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiggy808
I've been warned against choppers on the marshan for that very reason. What do you think of the tempest, good choice bad choice?
After the incident we started looking in to any issues we had and came to the conclusion that the engine mounts are shot, therefore not helping. going to replace them with solid. Does anyone know of any off the shelf or am I going to have to knock some up?
Thanks.
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you need to get as much play out of the steering and mid section as you can this should eliminate the chine walking however from what you describe it sounds like you were pushing on too much for the conditions and just tripped on a wave then the nose dug in and spun you round
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