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Old 20-02-2006, 11:54 PM   #1
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My first "real" hard boat

Right - now don't tell that lot over at rib.net, but in the very near future - im looking at buying my first "real" hard boat.

I have had 16ft boats (fletchers and what not)... and at the moment I have 7.5 meter tornado, with 2x115hp 4 strokes...

I want something faster for messing around with this summer...

What type of boat do people suggest I start with... preferably up to about £10k for the first one... see how I get on.. then maybe something bigger/better later



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Old 20-02-2006, 11:57 PM   #2
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Old 20-02-2006, 11:58 PM   #3
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thats what I was thinking ... what size engine is good to start with

What kind of fuel costs ?
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Old 21-02-2006, 12:03 AM   #4
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a nice 20-21 with xr2 mercury or 2.5 offshore fuel i think xr2 9-11gal hr or 2.5 upto 14 gal hr thats flat out i think 20 with xr2 70mph or 80+ with 2.5 offshore 21ft a bit slower
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Old 21-02-2006, 01:38 AM   #5
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fuel cost

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thats what I was thinking ... what size engine is good to start with

What kind of fuel costs ?
it aint just the fuel cost you got to worry about when you get a p20 /21 with an xr2 or any 2.5 i.e the wife has got to go you wont be able to keep them both happy!
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Old 21-02-2006, 07:34 AM   #6
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dont worry about the wife just buy it its your toy
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Old 21-02-2006, 08:05 AM   #7
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Old 21-02-2006, 08:20 AM   #8
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Re: My first "real" hard boat

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What type of boat do people suggest I start with... preferably up to about £10k for the first one...
You should be able to find a decent Phantom 21 in this price range.

That should fit the bill perfectly.You may find it makes your face ache from grinning though!
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Old 21-02-2006, 09:33 AM   #10
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a nice 20-21 with xr2 mercury or 2.5 offshore fuel i think xr2 9-11gal hr or 2.5 upto 14 gal hr thats flat out i think 20 with xr2 70mph or 80+ with 2.5 offshore 21ft a bit slower
My 2.5 offshore does 30 + gallons an hour flat out and im sure when i ran an xr2 it was around 18 an hour.
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Old 21-02-2006, 09:46 AM   #11
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Ya could get a raceboat - well within yer budget!
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Old 21-02-2006, 09:51 AM   #12
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Are you not taking that to Allhallows Matt??
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Old 21-02-2006, 10:02 AM   #13
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nice pic,very level
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My 2.5 offshore does 30 + gallons an hour flat out and im sure when i ran an xr2 it was around 18 an hour.
XR2 Manual states 20 Gallons per hour FLAT OUT. Would go for the 2.4 EFI its faster!

Taz and I both had Phantom 20's mine had an XR2 and was great but after going in Taz's EFI I have never been in a boat with so much power to weight ratio - Frightening!
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matt, where did you get that pic?
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Old 21-02-2006, 12:46 PM   #16
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It's the one Jon took, posted elsewhere on this very site.
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Old 27-04-2006, 09:09 AM   #17
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Right, I'll be ready to buy within the next couple of weeks - but looking around on boatmad and boatsandoutboards... can't really see anything that takes my fancy... other than:

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F74838/

but thats already been sold

Any other suggestions? or places to look?

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Old 27-04-2006, 09:16 AM   #18
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Seems nicley balanced and not a lot of £££££
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F96114/
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Old 27-04-2006, 09:27 AM   #19
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I saw that one - but my feeling is the engine is going to be very old... im hopefully trying to get something newer...
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Old 27-04-2006, 09:40 AM   #20
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Advartage of slightly older is a lot more 2nd user spares.
Just struck me as a simple cheap rig, motor gets you through the season then give it the old once over during the winter months. But we are all different, thinking now maybe thats what I should have done ??? mhhhhhhh
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