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06-09-2007, 01:49 PM
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#21
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Registered User
Country: Scotland
Location: Kirkcudbright
Interests: Boats n Lambrettas
Boat make: Boatless
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Kirkcudbright
Posts: 978
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Don't Mercruiser do a duo prop now?
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06-09-2007, 04:04 PM
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#22
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
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Originally Posted by Gordon McMath
Pair of Chevy crate engines 415hp a piece,on bravo's.
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Crate engines are an excellent way to go, if you have existing packages with busted motors. otherwise, it's a crap idea as the parts needed to make them into a marine engine, together with drives, transoms, pumps etc, would cost you a fortune.
The cheapest option, unless you can find some good secondhand, would be a pair of Merc 496's, on Bravo 1's, but not with ''a deep leg'' !!!!!!!!! Std or slightly raised X height would be fine! You can probably source them in the States for not a lot of $$$$$$'s.
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06-09-2007, 04:51 PM
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#23
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: South Coast
Interests: Boats/Cranes
Boat make: Revenger 29 RIB
Engines: Illmor V10/625hp.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: South Coast
Posts: 247
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Thats a good point Tony,I had forgotten that Dictator has no donor engines.496's would be a good package but I suspect that Dictator will not want to pay new prices,all i can suggest is have a look on offshoreonly.com this will give you an idea of whats about but its very much a case of buyer beware,you could end up getting a 'bargain' only for the undiscovered faults to end up costing a fortune to repair over here.
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06-09-2007, 04:51 PM
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#24
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Registered User
Country: US
Location: Virginia
Interests: Quiet desperation
Boat name: A Little Noisy
Boat make: Excalibur 24
Engines: Express Racing 525
Cruising area: Mobjack Bay (where?)
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,974
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike k
Don't Mercruiser do a duo prop now?
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Yes, Bravo III.
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06-09-2007, 05:47 PM
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#25
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Engine tester
Country: united kingdom
Location: Southend on Sea
Occupation: Construction
Interests: Gin & Women
Boat name: motorvator
Boat make: Revenger San Marino / Sunseeker Camargue 46 / Phantom 18/19/600
Engines: 502 mercruiser / Detroit 550s / 115 ProXS / Anything Borrowed
Cruising area: Thames, Southend
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southend on Sea
Posts: 1,021
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I may be wrong but I get the impression it's going to end up with something like this in it
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F124423
In all fairness that would be alright I suppose if the engines and drives were rebuilt top to bottom and suitably tuned for performance, but won't ever do the boat justice.
But surely this warrants a pair of bravo 1's and matching with a pair of suitably worked 454 or better still 502's
3 grand a pop for the bravos including shields and about 5 grand per side for a worked engine with holleys or similar running exhaust through hub?
Do that and you have the upgrade route sorted as and when with headers, superchargers etc
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07-09-2007, 10:25 AM
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#26
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: London
Occupation: Analyst
Interests: Cats, Stamp Collecting, cookery, Reading, Travelling. Ping Pong.
Boat name: Shogun Star*
Boat make: Cigarette Squadron 39
Engines: 1 x yam 25hp 1 x mariner 15hp, 1 8hp sailmate, 1 75 4 stroke, 1 250 merc EFI, 1 2.5merc
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: London
Posts: 64
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[QUOTE=motorvator;115222]I may be wrong but I get the impression it's going to end up with something like this in it
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F124423
In all fairness that would be alright I suppose if the engines and drives were rebuilt top to bottom and suitably tuned for performance, but won't ever do the boat justice.
Doesnt look that bad! Can you do LPG conversion to any inboard? If so who should do it and how much to pay?
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07-09-2007, 10:39 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dictator
In all fairness that would be alright I suppose if the engines and drives were rebuilt top to bottom and suitably tuned for performance, but won't ever do the boat justice.
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Thought you didn't want to spend any money! By the time you've done all that, you'll still have a load of ancient old shite, and will have spent almost as much as sourcing some cheap new (waranteed) Engine/Drive packages.
This all sounds like 'talk is cheap' to me.
My money says 'Shogun Star' will continue to clutter up the Solent powered by various scrap outboards until you run out (of scrap outboards) and move on.
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07-09-2007, 11:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
My money says 'Shogun Star' will continue to clutter up the Solent powered by various scrap outboards until you run out (of scrap outboards) and move on.
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Then put on E-bay and flogged to some poor bastard who'll spend six months waiting for it......
http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20798
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07-09-2007, 11:42 AM
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,891
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What item number?
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07-09-2007, 01:17 PM
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#30
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Registered User
Country: UK
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,237
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Dictator, why dont you just sell the boat and stop $+&*ing about.
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08-09-2007, 11:04 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: London
Occupation: Analyst
Interests: Cats, Stamp Collecting, cookery, Reading, Travelling. Ping Pong.
Boat name: Shogun Star*
Boat make: Cigarette Squadron 39
Engines: 1 x yam 25hp 1 x mariner 15hp, 1 8hp sailmate, 1 75 4 stroke, 1 250 merc EFI, 1 2.5merc
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: London
Posts: 64
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turnip1
Dictator, why dont you just sell the boat and stop $+&*ing about.
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and why dont you stick to rib.net mate!!
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08-09-2007, 03:13 PM
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#32
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Registered User
Country: UK
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dictator
and why dont you stick to rib.net mate!!
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Not me pal, never been on the site, cant stand RIBS of any sort.
What amazes me is why anyone would by a boat like Shogun and run it around the Solent like a displacement boat with a clip-on on the back?
Ive watched you pass my local a couple of times this summer and quite frankly it just aint right.
Shogun should be put back to her former glory by someone with a passion for boats and the pockets to do it. If your talking about mixing petrols and diesels you aint the right owner for this boat.
If what other people have posted previously about you on this thread is true, you appear to be a river rat eeking out a living in the Marine Industry by ripping people off. I dont think the industry needs any more shysters as there are plenty at present.
Sort Shogun out properly or sell her to someone who can so she is not lost to the boat scrapyard in the sky.
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08-09-2007, 04:18 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turnip1
Sort Shogun out properly
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He already has. It apears to have a plywood deck now. Aronow would turn in his grave!
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08-09-2007, 04:35 PM
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Registered User
Occupation: Champion Pie Eater
Boat name: On The Rocks
Boat make: Ring 21 marshan 17 four winns horizon, hydro 3 pointer, f2 cat, backdraft 22
Cruising area: Way up norf and Sarf coast areas
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,619
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Have i understood this right, Dictator is alias Robert Bonham-Smith?
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08-09-2007, 04:39 PM
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#35
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gazza
Have i understood this right, Dictator is alias Robert Bonham-Smith?
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One and the same.
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08-09-2007, 04:56 PM
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#36
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Registered User
Occupation: Champion Pie Eater
Boat name: On The Rocks
Boat make: Ring 21 marshan 17 four winns horizon, hydro 3 pointer, f2 cat, backdraft 22
Cruising area: Way up norf and Sarf coast areas
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,619
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I've read the BM and Ribnet forums, seems Mr Dictator is a popular chap
with Paypal legal dept and the local courts.
Happy Ebayer
Dictator what name are you this week?
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08-09-2007, 05:31 PM
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#37
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Registered User
Country: UK
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
He already has. It apears to have a plywood deck now. Aronow would turn in his grave!
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You aren't serious Jon, are you?
This guy shouldnt be allowed within 200 yards of any boat.
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08-09-2007, 08:18 PM
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#38
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Large member
Country: England
Location: On the farm
Occupation: General Trouble Causer Salterns Boatyard
Interests: Official smartass
Boat name: Seahorse.org
Boat make: a V24 and a SLOW unstable ICE Bladerunner
Engines: 2x300 promax, 320 Volvo
Cruising area: England/France & Med
Join Date: May 2005
Location: On the farm
Posts: 2,681
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turnip1
If what other people have posted previously about you on this thread is true, you appear to be a river rat eeking out a living in the Marine Industry by ripping people off. I dont think the industry needs any more shysters as there are plenty at present.
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Some of them are BOATMAD members - Aparently any riff raff can be a member here....
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08-09-2007, 08:43 PM
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#39
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Registered User
Country: UK
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by verytricky
Some of them are BOATMAD members - Aparently any riff raff can be a member here....
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Quite right Trickster, im still hanging in there!
However, i do not work in the Marine Trade, so i sleep very well at night. I know ive said it before but ive never come across such scumsuckers as in the Marine Trade. Just my experience im afraid.
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08-09-2007, 09:29 PM
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#40
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: London
Occupation: Analyst
Interests: Cats, Stamp Collecting, cookery, Reading, Travelling. Ping Pong.
Boat name: Shogun Star*
Boat make: Cigarette Squadron 39
Engines: 1 x yam 25hp 1 x mariner 15hp, 1 8hp sailmate, 1 75 4 stroke, 1 250 merc EFI, 1 2.5merc
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: London
Posts: 64
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turnip1
Quite right Trickster, im still hanging in there!
However, i do not work in the Marine Trade, so i sleep very well at night. I know ive said it before but ive never come across such scumsuckers as in the Marine Trade. Just my experience im afraid.
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What do you propose to do about it? Raise the subscription or do you think they should only take applications from the right schools or county regiments?
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