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Old 03-08-2004, 09:37 AM   #1
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Old 03-08-2004, 10:21 AM   #2
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Old 03-08-2004, 01:05 PM   #3
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Spirit? Yacht? American registered ketch?
Glad they're all OK though.
Full name of boat currently : 'Spirit of the Jolly Sailor'.

Her new home was indeed intended to be Newfoundland. This may explain the registration.

As for the 'ketch' remark. Perhaps it shouldn't dominate some superb work by emergency services to save four people's lives?

They got there, they got them out, they're safe.

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Don't start me off!
Steady. Four people have had a very close shave and a boat is missing.

Whatever else your views on Alan are; at least he had the bollocks to have a go, not once but repeatly for over a decade.

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Oh yes, and here comes the defense from termite.
Matt, someone edited your reply guess another moderator is in for the chop then
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Steady. Four people have had a very close shave and a boat is missing.

Whatever else your views on Alan are; at least he had the bollocks to have a go, not once but repeatly for over a decade.

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Had to think carefully whether or not to post this, but here goes..

Right, now I’m going to go out on a limb. Please read what I am saying carefully before “flaming” me. Firstly, I wish to make it very clear that I am pleased that the crew of “Spirit” are alive and well and, from what I read, they had made every effort to be prepared for such an event.
My point is this; - Everyday, “ordinary”* people risk their lives and health just by going about their business. You only have to look at the list of “dangerous occupations” to see what risks these people take day in day out. You can include in this list those members of the emergency and rescue service who have to deal with this type of emergency. Alan and his crew chose to be where they were. I do not know whether or not this particular event was being done for charity or not, but the point remains the same. They chose to be there. It was not part of a job, it was not part of a rescue mission, it was not Government service, it was choice. The same choice I make when I set to sea in my own boat, or take the car out for a drive, or even walk the dog. If I run foul of events and end up in a situation where I need to rely on someone else to come to my rescue, how should I be regarded? If I am undertaking something that could not be considered as part of everyday living, how should I be considered by “the public” should I have need of outside assistance? If I have an “accident” whilst driving to work, with due care, or something as mundane as walking the dog, should I be considered differently? After all I am not choosing to put myself in harms way, the way I would be if I was undertaking something such as caving, skydiving or even playing rugby.
What I am getting at, in a round about sort of way is my questioning of why people heap praise on those taking unnecessary risks and yet, by and large, ignore those who risk their all for the benefit of others?
I am not against taking risks at all. I am a firm believer that society will benefit from the exploits of some people. Balance this with our strange ways of promoting to cult status, those people who are the sole beneficiaries of their own exploits and no, I am not saying this about the crew of Spirit, because I don’t know what the object of their journey was yet.
So, in your congratulations and thoughts for Alan and his crew, remember all those “ordinary”* people too…….



*Yes I know that sounds condescending, but I can’t think of an alternative way of expressing this.
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An extremely articulate post and I'm sure it won't be taken out of context by anyone on this forum.
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Matt, someone edited your reply guess another moderator is in for the chop then
Pete, your apparent obsession with moderators on this forum is becoming tiresome! would it be asking too much, to expect you to drop it now please?

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From what I can see of this image, which I presume was taken with an infrared camera, it looks like the shed fell orf! I reckon that'd get y'r attention!
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Old 03-08-2004, 06:51 PM   #11
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Bravo!!! You managed to have a dig at me there quite sneakily. 10/10 for effort.

Good God..all the women have gone and left a load of kids.
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Would you care to expand on that Chris!
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Would you care to expand on that Chris!
Of course i will..I thought that this reply was childish.
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Jon's right.
Enough power struggles.

Jono's right.
I would also be personally devastated if any of you were in danger of death.

Termite's right. Keep it light. They're OK.

Matt. I wasn't having a go. I don't know the full story either. Trying to fill in a few gaps. Please don't take it personally.

Yes the boat was going to work for food deliveries in remote places to people who need them.

Yup. I know a lot of people who suffer as well. Feeling sad for one or another doesn't exclude feeling compassionate for this group.

And to be honest I got a bit of a fright myself because we were all together at the weekend. Fi and I are/were so fond of the boat too and grateful for the way it looked after us. We waved them off on Sunday night fully expecting news of a great trip.

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Chris, what do you think you 'give' to this forum?
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A boat to take the piss out of?
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A boat to take the piss out of?
Well, FGT, there's no "come back" that will match that...
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Old 03-08-2004, 07:58 PM   #18
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Yes, it's an excellent reply! and I have to admit, it defused a growing situation in this thread (I hope)
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Oh well here goes ......

as i am probably one of the newest "NEWBIES" i wondered wether i should reply to this particular thread or not ... but hey whats a forum for !

Alan & his crew got in trouble... ( thankfully they are OK ) but.. Who was there to help them ?

"The coastguard rescue helicopter "Mike Uniform" was scrambled along with a Nimrod aircraft from RAF Kinloss in the north east of Scotland. ( how much did that cost ? )

I wonder how many here actually give a "Donation" to the people who are there to rescue us or just take them for granted !

I for one hope that anytime i might get into any sort of trouble on "my big blue playground" the real "Heroes" will be there to help me & and the next time i see an RNLI collection box "I WILL DIG DEEP" WILL YOU ????
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