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13-02-2005, 04:01 PM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 1,803
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Phantom 18 weight?
Well the title says it all realy! Anybody know, bareboat no rigging?
Thanks, Alan
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14-02-2005, 07:13 PM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 1,803
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???
Nobody have an idea even!
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14-02-2005, 08:21 PM
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Jonny could probably find out, but since we're all about to disappear off to Miami for a week, I hope you're not in a hurry..........
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14-02-2005, 08:42 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Posts: 1,199
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It all depends on the lay-up specified at the time of the build.
But as a general guide 380Kg is a ball-park figure.
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14-02-2005, 08:46 PM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 1,803
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
Jonny could probably find out, but since we're all about to disappear off to Miami for a week, I hope you're not in a hurry..........
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Matt: no, not in a hurry. I was more surprised that nobody here knew.
Wayne: ball-park is plenty good enough, thanks
They are a little lighter than I thought they'd be!
Thanks dudes
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14-02-2005, 09:29 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wayne Kerr
It all depends on the lay-up specified at the time of the build.
But as a general guide 380Kg is a ball-park figure.
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That's more than a (Baker built) P21
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14-02-2005, 09:50 PM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Posts: 2,475
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im sure clive said mine weighed less than 300 kg, mine has a balsa core .
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15-02-2005, 02:47 AM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 1,803
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Roofer, is that with or without interior, seats, pannels etc. No rigging?
That is damn light!
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15-02-2005, 07:22 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally posted by roofer
im sure clive said mine weighed less than 300 kg, mine has a balsa core .
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Yeah, when I get back from the States I'll check, but I would think definitely sub 300 Kilos.
A stock P21 is not much over 300 Kilos, and it's quite a bit bigger than a P18 all round.
Steve sent me some numbers recently, and a std P21, fully rigged with a V6 Yamaha 225, upholstery, tank, battery etc, completely turnkey, was 730 Kilos
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15-02-2005, 12:24 PM
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hello
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,739
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jonny
Steve sent me some numbers recently, and a std P21, fully rigged with a V6 Yamaha 225, upholstery, tank, battery etc, completely turnkey, was 730 Kilos
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Dude if you fitted a car battery instead it would be a whole sh*t load lighter.
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15-02-2005, 05:41 PM
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Registered User
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: GOLDEN MILE
Posts: 2,475
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hydro thats fully rigged less engine and fuel tank, theres no floor or panels in my boat .
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15-02-2005, 08:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Posts: 1,199
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Hydro, I spoke with Clive before I replied, he gave me the 380 figure, maybe he ment 280 dunno. It was dinner time & I could hear Corri St in his background! Maybe he's a fan, I hope not!
Just out of intrest (or maybe not) I previously had a P16 which weighed in at 550Kg, that's fully fitted out & ready to go with 2ltr Merc PLUS trailor!
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16-02-2005, 07:19 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Posts: 1,199
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Hydro, just had another word with CJ.
He said "The 18 probably does weigh more than a Baker Built P21, but lightness is not always the way to go".
He can build them light, he can build them strong, the build materials denotes the price.
There was a case, three or four years ago in an OCR race at Southend where an 18 missed a turn and went straight through a fishing boat that was at anchor 20M offshore.
Needless to say the fishing boat was turned into matchwood, the P18 sustained a few scratches.
I'll ask CJ what the build of that one was & get back to you.
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16-02-2005, 10:25 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
Posts: 3,095
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wayne Kerr
Hydro, just had another word with CJ.
He said "The 18 probably does weigh more than a Baker Built P21, but lightness is not always the way to go".
He can build them light, he can build them strong, the build materials denotes the price.
There was a case, three or four years ago in an OCR race at Southend where an 18 missed a turn and went straight through a fishing boat that was at anchor 20M offshore.
Needless to say the fishing boat was turned into matchwood, the P18 sustained a few scratches.
I'll ask CJ what the build of that one was & get back to you.
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That was a 19 with Min all up weight of 600kg a good bare boat would be around 300kg
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27-02-2005, 07:54 AM
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Registered User
Engines: Yamaha 140hp, modded Yamaha 90hp
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 161
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That 19 is a lightweight build, It is still going strong now it has been repaired properly unlike the complete mess that was made of the original repairs.
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