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24-03-2005, 11:50 PM
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Registered User
Country: somerset
Location: weston super mare
Occupation: engineer
Interests: Boating
Boat name: fourplay
Boat make: cyclone 19
Engines: 150 etec ho
Cruising area: weston /painton/ bognor reigis
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Location: weston super mare
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shame your so faraway we could o'v got a case of stella and f##ked it up be tween uss
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24-03-2005, 11:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by karl
shame your so faraway we could o'v got a case of stella and f##ked it up be tween uss
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only an hour!
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25-03-2005, 12:08 AM
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Registered User
Country: somerset
Location: weston super mare
Occupation: engineer
Interests: Boating
Boat name: fourplay
Boat make: cyclone 19
Engines: 150 etec ho
Cruising area: weston /painton/ bognor reigis
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: weston super mare
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wot sort of speed do you tow your boat at then and wot with to get ere or there in an hour?
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25-03-2005, 12:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by karl
wot sort of speed do you tow your boat at then and wot with to get ere or there in an hour?
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steady 70 on m'way, your in weston rite?
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25-03-2005, 12:30 AM
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Registered User
Country: somerset
Location: weston super mare
Occupation: engineer
Interests: Boating
Boat name: fourplay
Boat make: cyclone 19
Engines: 150 etec ho
Cruising area: weston /painton/ bognor reigis
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: weston super mare
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yeh. dont think you could do it an hour it took me an hour 45 to get to paintion with a v6 shogun doing 80/85 poss 90 pulling a p21
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25-03-2005, 08:56 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Bending the Wilks fendering round the bow and transom corners is easy.
Fit the rubbing strake by marking the centre of a length, holding that against the bow at this mark, and roll the ali strip round the bow, without letting it slip, to accertain at what point along the side of the boat the start/join will be. This procedure is mearly to get your joins in the same place on each side of the boat.
Mark this start point and rivett the end of the strake there (two man job, obviously), rivetting every 8" or so, moving towards the bow. When you get to the bow, put the last few rivetts closer together as the strip gets close to the start of the curve, this is to stop the strip kicking away from the boat as you bend it around the nose.
Bending the soft extruded ali around the bow is very easy, and requires no heat, or any special tools or heavy-handedness.
Whilst you bend the strip around the bow, and it's nice and flush with the glass on the curve, your buddy drills and rivetts it just behind you, again putting the rivetts closer together in this region (mebbe ever 2" for the first foot). the same approach is used for the corners of the transom, and again with extra rivetts.
Once you've been round and the whole boat is done, put another rivett in-between each existing rivett. You should now have rivetts every 4" except in the bow and transom corners, where they should be more frequent.
In the factory, the strip is half fitted (rivetts every 8") before the hull/deck are glassed, then the second lot of rivetts are fitted after the joining laminate is applied, with the rivetts going through the joining lay-up, this is why you found every other rivett glassed over.
The rivetts are marine 'sealed' (no open end) and a S/S pull-pin. A S/S washer is slipped over the rivett (on the inside), before it's 'pulled down' (poped) to remove the possibility of the swaged end pulling through the glass.
peezy!
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25-03-2005, 07:36 PM
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Registered User
Country: somerset
Location: weston super mare
Occupation: engineer
Interests: Boating
Boat name: fourplay
Boat make: cyclone 19
Engines: 150 etec ho
Cruising area: weston /painton/ bognor reigis
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: weston super mare
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thanks jonny i'll follow that to the text . fiver bet i still f##ck it up
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25-03-2005, 07:40 PM
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Registered User
Country: somerset
Location: weston super mare
Occupation: engineer
Interests: Boating
Boat name: fourplay
Boat make: cyclone 19
Engines: 150 etec ho
Cruising area: weston /painton/ bognor reigis
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: weston super mare
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GAV / wilks ALI 114 it's 28 mm the same as the phantom strip see wot price you can get it for
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05-04-2005, 12:40 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Met with Steve Baker today, it seems he sold most of his remaining stock (considerable) of the 'unique to Phantom' aluminium rubbing streak to Trio mouldings Southampton, when they bought the 20, 21 and 23 moulds from him, so they would be the people to contact about buying some.
Wilks still have the Die, but the minimum order would probably be a crippler!
jf
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05-04-2005, 01:45 AM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
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mine appears to be 28.5mm.................so its possible it may be from original stock?
what happend to trios - Baker + 50% rule there then ???
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05-04-2005, 08:10 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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We are just putting some on a 19 - we start at the bow with the centre of the strip and work down either side, but the rest of the process is exactly as described above.
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05-04-2005, 08:48 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cookee
we start at the bow with the centre of the strip and work down either side, but the rest of the process is exactly as described above.
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Now I'm really confused!
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05-04-2005, 08:51 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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We start in the middle at the bow and work outwards.
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05-04-2005, 08:53 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
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yeah, but isn't that what I said?
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05-04-2005, 09:08 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
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You said you start rivetting at one end then round the bow.
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05-04-2005, 09:15 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Location: South
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Ahh! ok
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18-04-2005, 04:51 PM
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If anyone's interested in doing a wilks order, I'm going to need approx 120' of rubbing strip pretty soon.
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