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09-04-2006, 08:08 PM
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Boat name: S.B Racing
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phantom 21 build strength
Is it normal to not be able to walk on the deck of a phantom 21 because its built so thin?? My tandem deck is solid but my friends p21 is mega thin???
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09-04-2006, 08:23 PM
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Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
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Ive been in two p21's, one you could walk on the other you couldn't, guess it depends on how light the layup is.
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09-04-2006, 08:24 PM
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Country: gibraltar
Location: gibraltar
Occupation: Shop Proprietor
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Boat make: Phantom 19XL
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Hi Scott,since far back that i can remember ive stepped on solid phantom decks and thin onces ,and the only reply i can give you about the thin one is that i never had a problem for stepping on it,and never heard about it either,now i must say that i only weight 62kg,i dont know how it will react to a 15stone guy,i dought very much he will go through,but theres experts in ere which will give u a more promicing answer.
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09-04-2006, 08:32 PM
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The Doc
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generally speaking................... no, the decks were too thin
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09-04-2006, 08:35 PM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
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Location: West Sussex
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I wondered if my mates p21 was some type of prototype coz it was made in grey gel coat! not just any grey but battleship grey with red and white stripes down the side! its since been painted black but i thought it was a wierd colour to have a boat made in? It also has things like "mod to 21" written on the underneath of the foot plate and holes in the floor that have been covered up by square fibreglass plates? Its an early split screen?
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09-04-2006, 08:42 PM
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hello
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You can walk on a standard layup phantom deck without falling through it, however it will flex and may cause cracks in the gell so its better not to. If you have to go over the deck its best to slide on your arse and spread the load more.
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09-04-2006, 08:46 PM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
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Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
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Location: West Sussex
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Quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Boat Dude
You can walk on a standard layup phantom deck without falling through it, however it will flex and may cause cracks in the gell so its better not to. If you have to go over the deck its best to slide on your arse and spread the load more.
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I wouldnt even slide on the deck of this thing! It can only be two layers of matt at the most Kin thin!
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09-04-2006, 08:49 PM
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hello
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How many layers is a standard hull layup? I thought it was only 3?
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09-04-2006, 08:52 PM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
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Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
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Quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Boat Dude
How many layers is a standard hull layup? I thought it was only 3?
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Buggered if i know dude! That extra layer must make a hell of a difference though!
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09-04-2006, 10:28 PM
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Country: England
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Occupation: Marine engineer/electrician
Interests: Boat, Landy, and other toys :)
Boat name: Mad Max/Master Fiddler
Boat make: Phantom 18/Fletcher Bravo
Engines: Merc XR2
Cruising area: Solent/IOW
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I can't really walk across the deck of Patriot (ex. Rescue Won), have 2 shimmy on me backside but I've been told this was a light layup, also know it's the same with John Lindsey's (black tatty ex Gib. runnin boat), think there are both thin and thick deck's dependin on whether they were built for race or pleasure.
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09-04-2006, 10:36 PM
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John? is that the guy who has a workshop near southampton?
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09-04-2006, 10:41 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Occupation: Marine engineer/electrician
Interests: Boat, Landy, and other toys :)
Boat name: Mad Max/Master Fiddler
Boat make: Phantom 18/Fletcher Bravo
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Yeh, was in cowes last year, had 2 tatty boats, the previous a blue ring 21, does cars but also builds outboards, his phantom pretty much consists of 2 bucket seats bolted to a wooden board (no floor) and the nicest 2.5 in the world sat on the back!!
was on the last drivers poker run, i'll find a pic of his boat....2 mins....
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09-04-2006, 10:45 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Occupation: Marine engineer/electrician
Interests: Boat, Landy, and other toys :)
Boat name: Mad Max/Master Fiddler
Boat make: Phantom 18/Fletcher Bravo
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Here ya go...05 poker run
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09-04-2006, 11:15 PM
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Yeah thats him
Karl on this forum had a couple of motors from him and JBD had a starter motor
He's changed his number though cus Karl tried to ring him the other day
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09-04-2006, 11:18 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
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Interests: Boat, Landy, and other toys :)
Boat name: Mad Max/Master Fiddler
Boat make: Phantom 18/Fletcher Bravo
Engines: Merc XR2
Cruising area: Solent/IOW
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o rite, I'll see if i can find it 4 ya.....
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10-04-2006, 07:43 AM
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Country: Hampshire
Location: Hayling Island
Occupation: fire fighter
Interests: putting out fires/speed
Boat make: phantom 20/phantom19xl/frode 21
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ive got his number if you need it? tank.
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10-04-2006, 06:17 PM
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Registered User
Country: gibraltar
Location: gibraltar
Occupation: Shop Proprietor
Interests: ocr,sleeping
Boat name: The Rock
Boat make: Phantom 19XL
Engines: Yamaha 130B
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haaaayyy i reconise that phantom from down ere cause the following boat registerd after that one was my p16 with G666.can any one tell me how it ended up there again,i know all the ribs were taken from down ere on a british battle ship.
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10-04-2006, 09:07 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: blackfield
Occupation: any old iron
Interests: boats and gadgets
Boat name: rough and ready
Boat make: Phantom 21, mercury 2.5 offshore
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It must have been in a fight with that battle ship carrying the ribs as the paint job wasn't up to much by the time it got to me.
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10-04-2006, 09:08 PM
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Registered User
Country: Gibraltar
Location: Gibraltar
Occupation: None for the moment, living the Dream
Interests: powerboating,smoking and sleeping
Boat name: used to be The Rock
Boat make: used to be Phantom 19
Engines: Used to be Yamaha 130
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That ex Gib phantom, should have a name like NIGHTRUNNER or THE FAGBURNER, after all thats what it was used for, i can trace the history of that specific boat if you would like me to.
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10-04-2006, 09:31 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
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Boat name: rough and ready
Boat make: Phantom 21, mercury 2.5 offshore
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Yes please
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