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Old 13-02-2012, 11:16 PM   #1
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Phantom 21 Moulds

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Does anyone know if the Phantom 21 moulds are still for sale and if so who has them and has anyone got the contact details etc etc.
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Old 13-02-2012, 11:41 PM   #2
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This one is a hot potatoe at the moment. Search the site and there is alot of info. I know things are going on. I would at a guess say no... well not the genuine tooling anyway.
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Old 13-02-2012, 11:46 PM   #3
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Question Phantom 21 Tooling

Ok, Thanks for that. If anyone else has any info it would be appreciated. This is a serious and genuine enquiry, we are looking for the originals with all the relevant rights etc and not copies as this would just be way too easy
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Jan korteland has the 21 moulds from steve baker they are for sale price is around 8000 euro i thought he has also the papers of it.
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Jan korteland has the 21 moulds from steve baker they are for sale price is around 8000 euro i thought he has also the papers of it.
I suspect that isn't quite correct!
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Jan korteland has the 21 moulds from steve baker they are for sale price is around 8000 euro i thought he has also the papers of it.
My god............ you could have not posted anyt hing worse..
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Old 17-02-2012, 02:13 PM   #8
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Jan korteland has the 21 moulds from steve baker ---- he has also the papers of it.
Is that what he claims?

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.... http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9548
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Jan Korteland don't have them anymore. I talked to him a couple month ago and he said he sold them.
The problem is that the guy who bought them allredy sold them again and Korteland don't know who own them now.
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Ok that can be i talked to him 1 year ago about the moulds he got diffent models 20 ft 21ft i thougt the boat store of jan korteland is 5 min away from my house so im am there a lot.
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How much is a new P21 now, does anyone know?
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A new one is around 11.000, thats wat i've seen on the internet.

http://www.phantom21.com/specification.php

http://www.hydromaxpowerboats.co.uk/powerboats.aspx

By the way, the moulds Korteland had, wasn't original ones and the transome was not that thick how it should be to put a big engine behind it.
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I now that all the transoms of the p21 where weak and just for 200 hp in the shop they did on all there phantoms reinforcements on the inside of there transoms becouse they putting 250 v-maxs and 300 verado"s behind it.
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I'm not sure if it's eaven strong enough for 200HP. I've got some detail pictures from one of that boats and there are cracks in the gelcote all over around the transom and behind that boat was not eaven a 200HP engine.
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Well i now that the 20ft phantoms could handle 150 and the 21 about 200

They were putting on 20ft 200hp maxx and 21ft 250hp and some 21 with 300 verado"s
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I know, but the original ones are build stromger than the most aftermarket ones.
The one link i put in the tread looks like good boats, they sould be good to 300 horse.
Does enybody her have experence with that new Phantoms
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The genuine Phantoms were built to suit the intended purpose. Race models got up to 3" (75mm) of transom ply. This was pre bonded on the bench before bonding in. Quite strong.
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Sorry, but I'm still not sure who makes the 21 or can anyone splash one now ?
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the original tooling is still in the uk at th.e moment. But i believe some matters need sorting out first
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