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Old 26-06-2011, 09:38 PM   #1
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Off Colewell / Totland bay today - had a play with a couple of local Phantoms ( 21’s running 200’s ). Hope I did'nt embarrass them in my little old Seadoo – sat at 70 and the tubs couldn’t keep up……………………………
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Off Colewell / Totland bay today - had a play with a couple of local Phantoms ( 21’s running 200’s ). Hope I did'nt embarrass them in my little old Seadoo – sat at 70 and the tubs couldn’t keep up……………………………
funny that you had a head start on me by about 200y and if you looked to your wright you would have seen me comming level with you on your tonker toy
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yeah funny that done the same to them last year on 2009 models.
but in all fairness they are 20 odd year old boats
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Old 27-06-2011, 09:31 AM   #4
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funny that you had a head start on me by about 200y and if you looked to your wright you would have seen me comming level with you on your tonker toy
Sorry mate, think were talking about to different things?? I was in Totland bay and watched two white 21’s approaching ( heading westerly ) - nicely trim’d with rooster tail’s. I came alongside the nearest phantom( no 200 yard head start ) , motioned towards the Needles, put my head down and WOT it. Pulled away from the tubs and continued to loose them, backed off after probably a mile or so and waited for the Phantoms to catch me up (my mate, following on a ski confirmed that both boats were falling behind). The nearest driver ( obviously not you Mark ), first claimed he wasn't WOT ( that made me chuckle! ) Then muttered something about changing his prop for a faster one.......................looser!!!! lol.
The Phantom’s were beaten by a RXT 260 RS with a few mods.......( more upgrades on the way ), admittedly, with a bit of chop, Ski’s can’t keep the speed up, but not yesterday!

Keep well, hopefully see you out on the Solent

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Was that the same 2 21's that came into langstone? One with a 300 merc and the other had a rude on it?
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Old 27-06-2011, 09:47 AM   #6
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Was that the same 2 21's that came into langstone? One with a 300 merc and the other had a rude on it?
I believe thay were both running 200's - one an oldish style lump
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Horses for courses
I have a P25 and a Seadoo XP, try stopping on a Seadoo, kicking back while listening to the Radio and getting a BJ?
On the other hand try launching a P25 at Mudeford when the tides out!

I wouldn't part with either though
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Old 27-06-2011, 12:19 PM   #8
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I have a P25 and a Seadoo XP, try stopping on a Seadoo, kicking back while listening to the Radio and getting a BJ?
On the other hand try launching a P25 at Mudeford when the tides out!

I wouldn't part with either though
Very true, got a Predator RIB - went out Sat and watched the round the island race off the Needles in some interesting seas! Would’nt have been out there long on a ski! Spent all Sunday lazing on / off Totland beach with family / friends - Skis, RIB's and a Zap cat - sun blazing down, ice cream and splashing around

Had numerous types of boat inc 3 Phantoms, but for convenience - I can get home from work, hitch the Seadoo up and be on the Solent within 15 mins.
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The only thing I don't like about skis is being grouped in with all the numpties who ride them but that's not enough to stop me.

Also the ecomony is great and capsizing them and getting back on is a strange concept after the boat!
The most important thing is that we are out there!
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Old 27-06-2011, 01:26 PM   #10
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Off Colewell / Totland bay today - had a play with a couple of local Phantoms ( 21’s running 200’s ). Hope I did'nt embarrass them in my little old Seadoo – sat at 70 and the tubs couldn’t keep up……………………………
So your 11 foot long ski with 260 plus hp beat a 21 foot boat with 200hp . Big deal .

Try racing a 21 Phantom with a 260 efi and I know who'd win , and it wouldn't be the ski .
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Was that the same 2 21's that came into langstone? One with a 300 merc and the other had a rude on it?
Saw those two coming into Langstone - nice looking boats!

Were you out in the "yellow peril" by any chance??

Think we saw you running along southsea front getting soaked! we were in the wellcraft
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one was 23 with 300xs and the other was 21 with a rude 200 ho coming in and out of langstone.
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Old 27-06-2011, 01:56 PM   #13
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So your 11 foot long ski with 260 plus hp beat a 21 foot boat with 200hp . Big deal .

Try racing a 21 Phantom with a 260 efi and I know who'd win , and it wouldn't be the ski .
hopefully, with the new mods in the next week or so I should see mid to late 70's - love to try the 21/260.
My last Phantom was a 20/280 efi - the RXT ‘out of the hole’ was all over the boat, never raced them side by side though for top end
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Old 27-06-2011, 03:00 PM   #14
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So your 11 foot long ski with 260 plus hp beat a 21 foot boat with 200hp . Big deal .

Try racing a 21 Phantom with a 260 efi and I know who'd win , and it wouldn't be the ski .
Must be slow phantoms down south
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Sorry mate, think were talking about to different things?? I was in Totland bay and watched two white 21’s approaching ( heading westerly ) - nicely trim’d with rooster tail’s. I came alongside the nearest phantom( no 200 yard head start ) , motioned towards the Needles, put my head down and WOT it. Pulled away from the tubs and continued to loose them, backed off after probably a mile or so and waited for the Phantoms to catch me up (my mate, following on a ski confirmed that both boats were falling behind). The nearest driver ( obviously not you Mark ), first claimed he wasn't WOT ( that made me chuckle! ) Then muttered something about changing his prop for a faster one.......................looser!!!! lol.
The Phantom’s were beaten by a RXT 260 RS with a few mods.......( more upgrades on the way ), admittedly, with a bit of chop, Ski’s can’t keep the speed up, but not yesterday!

Keep well, hopefully see you out on the Solent

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nice one lee what we should do is stop playing on the nursery slopes and go out on the black run get a bit of air us in are so could old tubs and you in your tub (because its about the same size) sorry lee had2 pert that in and we can open up out there by the way my old mucker ant a looser chap!
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Some valid points raised here, I own a Ring 21 and a Superjet (stand up Jetski) - both are great fun in there respective rights.

I took six of us (including my 6 x week old daughter) from Portsmouth to Fishbourne on Sunday in the Ring 21, moored up and had lunch at the Royal Victoria Yacht club, chilled in the sunshine, couple of us went out for a blast in the Ring after lunch, 60-65mph in the chop awesome fun, came back in, did some crab fishing with my son in the harbour and cruised back to Portsmouth, chilled out and had a great time. Couldnt have done that on my Jet Ski.

That said the Stand Up Jet Ski is immense fun and very challanging, been riding for 10 years and we do freestyle displays all over the place including Ibiza, London Motor Show, White Air etc - totally different sport for me.

Here's one of our video's taken using the wake off a couple of Master Craft ski boats:



I feel lucky to be able to enjoy both, we're all out there together.

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Cool video Jim!

At the end of the day you get idiots on jetskis that give them all a bad name, just like you get idiots in powerboats that give us a bad name. As long as people aren't being a dick, and everyone looks out for each other then it's all good
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Saw those two coming into Langstone - nice looking boats!

Were you out in the "yellow peril" by any chance??

Think we saw you running along southsea front getting soaked! we were in the wellcraft
Guilty you honor! Myself and lloyde went out in it. Lloyde was trying his acrobatic skills with it! FAIL!!
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Who was the white one going down the A3 about 1.30pm? had a mariner on it i think? i was going the oppsite way, it was an all white phantom with decals, couldn't read the name.
I think it was a 21?
I was doing a respactable 70ish mph going the other way so didnt get a good look.
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a brand new marshan 21 and a yamaha super jet its the way

Ha Ha out in the marshan on saturday on the super jet sunday monday....... some prickona sit down with goggles tryed to keep up with me and my navigator and ****ed it had to slow down 3 times from southsea to langstone for him bless lmao ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ................
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