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23-02-2012, 04:59 PM
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Country: Guernsey Channel Isles
Location: West Coast
Occupation: Hotelier
Interests: Powerboat racing
Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
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Whoooah
Throught hub Cleaver
That will give stern lift characteristics when driven
I reckon your hull needs bow lift
Woth some money though so dont give them away !
Better off with OMC Raker prop I think but the other Pirahana owners could perhaps clarify
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23-02-2012, 05:27 PM
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Prop
I check the repairnumbers and phone gröver Propeller in Köln. They Know the props. The stainless is a cleaver 14 x 25, the Other an 23 omc prop. The extreem friendly Mr. Gröver sen. Find it out.
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23-02-2012, 08:23 PM
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Country: Germany
Location: river Rhein
Boat name: Streets Ahead
Boat make: Phantom 600
Engines: Merc 2.0 SST Porting,2.5 200,2.5 Drag Smilin Jacks
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you will see , to find the right prop without a benchmark it will cost time and money .
Like big dutch mentioned, the clevers will give stern lift and both are not the right prop for your v8, they are ok on a very light hull with high revving small displacement engines.
cleavers will slip a lot and they are not good for hole shot ,if you try the 23 pitch your engine will act like a slipping clutch , it will rev high real fast with all that big cubic inch torque and you boat does nothing , just smoke and lots of sprayed water behind the transom.
you need a prop that's convert the torque of your motor into forward trust and good bow lift to get the front out of the water.
go for a used stainless 26 4 blade or 28 3 blade to start testing, don't spend lots of cash in the first one it will be not the last one .
this engine is well tuned a monster , have taken a closer look on the dyno sheet from the Scandinavian 370 hp v8
it had already at 3000 rpm 300 newton meter of torque and at 4000 410 and 6000 463,that's almost the same toque as a 1969 corvette with a 327 v8 engine !! and all that torque goes to a small 14 to 15 inch diameter prop in
h2o environment .
what prop type was used from the pre owner, any information ?
Michael
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24-02-2012, 02:44 AM
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Hallo germanansleen,
Ok, the pre owner, i don't belive a Lot of the Things he Said!!!!!
Alomost very Strange informations, Same Talk and Look than Care of the Boat.
His speach:" the clever for Top fast driving, and he take the Other One for waterski."
Right was, he Said that the cleaver is Not a Fast Sprinter and it will Takes a Time an Feeling with the throttle to get the Boat in Motion up to topspeed of 85mp/h, but i don't beleef him.
For shure, it Takes Time to find the right One. My Way too,mto spend Not so much Money for some testrockets, but when i Know exact what is needed, i will go to get it in my possebilities.
In my Friends/Dealers stock is for shure a bigger one Four Blade. On His Boat is a 300 too, but a New E-Tec V6.
His Guys in the neigbourhood are also equiped with speedtoys.
What is a right ca. Price for a Final Threeblade prop? Thanx.
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24-02-2012, 09:51 AM
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Team Skater 21Ft
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Boat make: Skater 21ft Cat Powa !
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Around 500-700 euro ?
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24-02-2012, 11:17 AM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey Channel Isles
Location: West Coast
Occupation: Hotelier
Interests: Powerboat racing
Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
Engines: Volvo 5 litre,Merc 115 Tower,Twin 250 Suzukis and 145 Mercruiser LX
Cruising area: Channel Islands and French coast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Coast
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Secondhand AROUND £150
New best prices from States on e bay
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24-02-2012, 01:38 PM
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Thanks for the infos.
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24-02-2012, 01:54 PM
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Carrera
Hey easy,
How far is your Carrera?
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24-02-2012, 05:00 PM
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Still the same in sick now for 2 weeks and dont do anything at the moment.
And the weather is a little cold stil, but i hope next week i can do some cleaning i think i need a week for cleaning the complete boat.
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24-02-2012, 05:09 PM
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..... I spend 6 hours Today in the Boat with a Strong steamer, cleaner and paper. For good, i can work Inside. Looks Great. Next Week the Parts from the
Rudi are Ready at the painter. I Hope it Looks good. Pics were follwow.
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26-02-2012, 03:13 PM
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Team Skater 21Ft
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Well i wil sell the boat becouse i think i dont have enought mony to buy me an engine this summer. I got a new house so lots of money going in there and im also busy with tuning my Seadoo rxp-x 08 to 350hp and there wil also go 2000 or 3000 euro in i need a charger rebuild so its good time to tune it now when all parts are out. It depends how much work i get if i get enough money i dont sell the boat and looking for an engine ..
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26-02-2012, 05:33 PM
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Ok, but the Boat wouldnt eat any Money without work on it. maybe you can fix it Next Year or find an cheap Engine soon. Good luck,
Dirk
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27-02-2012, 10:19 AM
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Team Skater 21Ft
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The storage wil eat my money
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27-02-2012, 11:42 AM
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Location: Harderwijk
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And you didn't think about all of this befor you bought the boat .......
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29-02-2012, 09:32 AM
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Team Skater 21Ft
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I did not bought it i trade it
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29-02-2012, 04:15 PM
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#76
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey Channel Isles
Location: West Coast
Occupation: Hotelier
Interests: Powerboat racing
Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
Engines: Volvo 5 litre,Merc 115 Tower,Twin 250 Suzukis and 145 Mercruiser LX
Cruising area: Channel Islands and French coast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Coast
Posts: 612
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True Dutchman-always trading !
Its a classic that boat just like an old English sports car
You will regret not trying it out and keeping her a bit longer !
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29-02-2012, 06:34 PM
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....right, that's what i do. The weather get wormer, and the Boat is clean and reddy to Ride.
Just Waiting for the painterman Build the stuff together and go Crazy!
Cant wait.
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29-02-2012, 10:38 PM
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Team Skater 21Ft
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I now butt u cant have all in life but we wil see what the time wil bring.
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03-03-2012, 09:33 AM
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Team Skater 21Ft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph@ntastic
And you didn't think about all of this befor you bought the boat .......
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you now me by now dont u ?
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03-03-2012, 04:50 PM
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#80
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Piranha Shark?
Quote:
Originally Posted by easy
I did not bought it i trade it
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Hello,
Do you or someone Ever See a Piranha Shark for Sale or See One live?
I have a Fine johnson 30 hp with no boat on it and Look fore a Small Small Small One.
Thanx for reply.
Dirk
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