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16-11-2005, 12:50 PM
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Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
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As it's historical value has been destroyed, I would say it's worthless!
As a 'restored to original' it would have been glorious, but it's so 'bastardized' now, I can't imagine how you'd ever get it nice again.
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16-11-2005, 01:04 PM
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Country: US
Location: Virginia
Interests: Quiet desperation
Boat name: A Little Noisy
Boat make: Excalibur 24
Engines: Express Racing 525
Cruising area: Mobjack Bay (where?)
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'Waterfront' was owned by David Baker who had previously raced a Crestliner Rampage in cruiser class.
I think he currently races in the Honda 150 class.
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16-11-2005, 02:46 PM
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I'd be more likely make "HIM" an offer on Mr Noisy.
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Reluctant Grumble??
there ya go Matt, perfic
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17-11-2005, 07:41 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Kent
Occupation: Train Engineer
Interests: Refit/Re-engine Woody's P18 and helping with D2S.
Boat name: Fugazi II / D2S
Boat make: Phantom 18 / Planatec 41'
Engines: 1xMercury XR2 / 2x 8.1ltr Chevys
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Originally posted by Jon Fuller
, just a rusty mess now. very sad.
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Are we talking about the original "Goldrush"? The class II cat with the detachable sponsons? If so, I thought it was made of aluminium so thus cannot rust as such!!!!!
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18-11-2005, 12:30 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Quote:
Originally posted by SplitPin
Are we talking about the original "Goldrush"? The class II cat with the detachable sponsons? If so, I thought it was made of aluminium so thus cannot rust as such!!!!!
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Yes, that's the one, but I was refering to the Nickelson-Mclaren scrap iron, for sale on ebay.
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19-11-2005, 01:12 AM
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What was the story regarding the rigging and racing of the old cougar Romans Sabre?
Think TD could help me out on this one?
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19-11-2005, 12:15 PM
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Registered User
Country: US
Location: Virginia
Interests: Quiet desperation
Boat name: A Little Noisy
Boat make: Excalibur 24
Engines: Express Racing 525
Cruising area: Mobjack Bay (where?)
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Raced as 'Marston Hotels' in the early 90's. Then sat for years at Merlin Quay happily disintegrating and providing shelter for all types of vermin.
Was then bought by Highland Events, re-named 'The Full Monty' and was used for their version of corporate hospitality and 'activity days'.
Numb Nutz could better fill you in on the quality and details of the 'restoration'.
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19-11-2005, 12:20 PM
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I seriously considering booking it on an activity day - I was desperate OK. 
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19-11-2005, 12:43 PM
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Registered User
Country: US
Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
I There was a (IMHO) beautiful looking 46 with twin BPM V12's at cowes this year, all done in silver metallic. On the one hand a bit dated, but on the other, very very cool, and somewhat reminiscent of "Wally" boats.
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It was used as the start boat for the P1 races.
I was asked to manoeuvre the boat out of the marina as the owner had only had just had the boat delivered by Cougar to Cowes the day before and was a little nervous. He took over once we got out of the marina and was fine.
Boat was actually very nicely done.
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19-11-2005, 01:19 PM
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Traveling
Country: UK
Location: Alderholt
Occupation: Aerospace
Boat name: T/T D2S
Boat make: Midas 27' Cat, Argo 16 Cat. Avon Rib Thingy
Engines: Merc 280-ROS -JSRE,65Xs, 75 Stinger, Yam 60
Cruising area: Any Seedy Bar
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Romans- Cougar
Daftest wing & scoop that I've ever seen but heck it worked & made all the difference to the boat
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19-11-2005, 01:25 PM
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Traveling
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Location: Alderholt
Occupation: Aerospace
Boat name: T/T D2S
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19-11-2005, 01:27 PM
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Location: Alderholt
Occupation: Aerospace
Boat name: T/T D2S
Boat make: Midas 27' Cat, Argo 16 Cat. Avon Rib Thingy
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pre wing & tunnel scoop
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19-11-2005, 01:36 PM
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He was a decent guy too wasn't he - luckily, because I heard Tony Fiddy be incredibly rude to the guy for no justifiable reason, if it'd been cliff smith I reckon Tony would've taken a swim.
I liked the boat, and BPM's sounded lovely. Be interested to see it once it's properly finished.
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Originally posted by Ben
It was used as the start boat for the P1 races.
I was asked to manoeuvre the boat out of the marina as the owner had only had just had the boat delivered by Cougar to Cowes the day before and was a little nervous. He took over once we got out of the marina and was fine.
Boat was actually very nicely done.
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21-11-2005, 09:13 AM
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Anybody remember seeing a fleet of Cougars (3 I think) in deep naval blue that a guy called Hayden-Bailey (surname) owned? I saw them in a magazine article once and they looked absolutely mint. The same guy also owned an old ´Brave Borderer´type vessel which was converted to pleasure - unbelievable quality workmanship (it least it looked it in the article). I think he kept them in a private dock on Southampton water somewhere. (Real James Bond stuff....)
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21-11-2005, 10:33 AM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
He was a decent guy too wasn't he - luckily, because I heard Tony Fiddy be incredibly rude to the guy for no justifiable reason, if it'd been cliff smith I reckon Tony would've taken a swim.
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Quite a nice guy.
The P1 people gave him a hard time too. He had two friends with him and one of the P1 start officials said " I've done all the P1 starts and passengers are not allowed on the start boat." Terry Herring (the Ass't OOD) was with us on the boat and replied "Well I've done thousands of starts and they are staying" which they did.
Hard to believe, here's a guy volunteering his time and boat and he gets yelled at. You have to love the welcoming arms of powerboat racing.
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21-11-2005, 12:34 PM
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Well said.....
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21-11-2005, 06:02 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Quote:
Originally posted by littlenige
The same guy also owned an old ´Brave Borderer´type vessel which was converted to pleasure - unbelievable quality workmanship (it least it looked it in the article). I think he kept them in a private dock on Southampton water somewhere. (Real James Bond stuff....)
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I think that Brave class boat was looked after by the fella who originaly navigated for Charles Burnett. Ian something or other
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21-11-2005, 06:14 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
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21-11-2005, 06:16 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Location: South
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thats the fella
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21-11-2005, 06:29 PM
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Registered User
Country: USA & UK
Location: Orlando & Netley
Occupation: Workshop cleaner
Interests: beer and boats
Boat make: Cougar
Cruising area: The Solent
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Orlando & Netley
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Quote:
Originally posted by littlenige
Anybody remember seeing a fleet of Cougars (3 I think) in deep naval blue that a guy called Hayden-Bailey (surname) owned? I saw them in a magazine article once and they looked absolutely mint. The same guy also owned an old ´Brave Borderer´type vessel which was converted to pleasure - unbelievable quality workmanship (it least it looked it in the article). I think he kept them in a private dock on Southampton water somewhere. (Real James Bond stuff....)
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He had two Cougar both US-1 46's, Frode is currently fitting one with triple Mercruiser 1075 super charged engines and the other is in my shop having a pair or Yanmar 440hp diesels fitted
The Brave class boat is at Gunwhalf Quays, was originaly built for a rich greek dude, was called Mercury then, Haydon~Bailey spent loads and loads of money doing it up when he putchased it, when finished it was mint, he then had some cash flow problems and most of the toys where sold off, he still owns it but its looking a bit tatty now
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